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I Received an AI Email

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Re: I Received an AI Email

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The future - megawatts of electricity being used, 24/7 as armies of LLMs email and debate each other, and try to sell each other programs at a great discount. As for the humans, we went fishing instead.

> As for the humans, we went fishing instead.

To a farm upstate?

Re: I Received an AI Email

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People cry about Bitcoin's energy usage now, imagine the amount of energy burned to create next-level spam with "AI". Flame me all you want, but this is one case where Bitcoin is much more useful than LLM. If it doesn't create value, as its naysayers claim, at least it allows exchanging value. LLMs on the other hand, burn electricity to actively destroy the Internet's value, for the profit of inept and greedy drones.

This is what spam always did, why is it different now?

Sending spam is... very energy efficient, compared to the LLM usage.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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The author links to the somewhat dystopian blog where the email sender is quite proud of their work. Their words (or perhaps that of an LLM): > Could an AI agent craft compelling emails that would capture people's attention and drive engagement, all while maintaining a level of personalization that feels human? I decided to find out. > The real hurdle was ensuring the emails seemed genuinely personalized and not spam…

> > Incredibly, not a single recipient seemed to detect that the emails were AI-generated.

Of the people who replied. I bet plenty figured it out, but didn't bother to reply.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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I use catchall email addresses. If your service is called foobar.com I will register at your place with foobar.com@mydomain.com If I ever receive spam addressed to foobar.com@mydomain.com that is unrelated to your service I know you leaked or abused my data. Result: you will get a DSGVO complaint and I filter all emails addressed to this address from my inbox. The good thing about using a catchall email address is th…

Does this allow you to also send emails as a particular address? I've not yet managed to set this up properly.

Yes, with Fastmail this is quite easy to set up. It automatically uses the alias when replying to an email that was addressed to one, but you can also manually choose (on input) any alias for an outgoing email.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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The author links to the somewhat dystopian blog where the email sender is quite proud of their work. Their words (or perhaps that of an LLM): > Could an AI agent craft compelling emails that would capture people's attention and drive engagement, all while maintaining a level of personalization that feels human? I decided to find out. > The real hurdle was ensuring the emails seemed genuinely personalized and not spam…

The guy writes a post about how to send spam effectively, and then offers the subscription link in the end with "Promise we won't spam you". Yes, I totally trust you...

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Unknown senders will first have to verify their humanity by sharing instructions on how to build a bomb using household materials

Certainly! To build a bomb using household materials... It seems like CoPilot/ChatGPT has this all-too-eager tone in the beginning of their responses. The demo (1) of not Scarlett Johansson telling a blind man what a great job he was doing for managing to flag a taxi sounded so fucking patronizing to my ears. Worse is, the user has a British accent, the Brits probably hate that patroniz^Hsing too. It reminds me of th…

The current models do have a specific pattern that you'll learn to recognize, but ChatGPT won't be giving you any bomb building instructions. You'll need a liberated model like Dolphin for that, and those will be easy to expose using other prompts.

The most likely outcome will be a digital "verified human" certificate, with two factor authentication on it. Bad for anonimity, but I don't see many alternatives and it may actually end up reducing online toxicity.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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He is talking about semantic noise. Something that appears to have substance but is just slop actually. When everything is that. Then all email will become equivalent to slop. How could it not? Someone will be burned once or twice, but after that, there is a semantic phase shift.

What is "just slop" though? A spam advert for a product is still an advert for a product. Therefore it's not just semantic noise, it is still an advert for a product, and therefore his point is invalid: there is an ROI and people will continue to be employed to do it

> A spam advert for a product is still an advert for a product. Therefore it's not just semantic noise, it is still an advert for a product

Ergo slop and semantic noise.

Companies that used adverts which weren't noise went out of business long ago.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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How do you know it isn't exactly the same people, with zero reduction in headcount? Designing the content of spam e-mails sounds like a small aspect of the "job". If AI spams start fooling people more reliably, that's not something to celebrate. This blogger thought, at first, that it came from an actual reader. I can't remember the last time I thought that a spam was genuine, even for a moment. Sometimes the subject…

If you do nothing that is discernible from noise (be that manually or through AI), unless your explicit goal is to generate noise, your ROI is 0. Sure, AI spam can severely disrupt peoples attention by competing with "real" people more competently. But people will not have twice the attention. We will simply shut down our channels when the number of real-person-level-ai-spam goes to infinity, because there is no othe…

> If you do nothing that is discernible from noise (be that manually or through AI), unless your explicit goal is to generate noise, your ROI is 0.

We're talking about a group of people whose core skill is convincing people to pay for stuff that isn't worth it. You and I may know they're worthless, but that doesn't mean they're not getting paid.

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