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I Received an AI Email

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Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by PlusAddressing »

castigatio wrote: post #17

It's a sign of things to come. We're going to have our own AI agents that filter and respond (or not respond) to these kinds of messages. Agents interacting with other agents. The bar to get hold of a real person is going to become that much higher. It is going to be messy for some time as agents war with other agents to reach the human eyeball. Some assholes are going to make a ton of money in the short term exploit…

I already started readying for it. I'm ensuring that ALL services that have my email have a Plus Address on them. The plus addresses are random and labeled only on my end.

Still not close to 100%, but when I feel like I do, I will then have a filter and an automated message telling people that removing plus addresses from my email is forbidden and I will not read their message if they do.

You will tell me where you found me, or I won't even listen to you. Because in the future, with an even larger infestation of automated agents passing off as human, that's the bare minimum I need to do.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by sph »

names_are_hard wrote: post #45
cranberryturkey wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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As a flesh and blood human I take some comfort in the fact that the comment I'm replying to is still identifiable (with high probability) as written by a non-human. I wonder how long it'll take until that's no longer the case. It may already not be the case. I'll probably never know.

What can't popular LLMs do? Be vulgar and snarky.

The future of human communication is to be cunts online, so that we can identify ourselves. That will at least separate us from the script kiddies. Major marketers will train their AIs without any filter, so we're fucked anyway.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by oefrha »

I detest cold emails in general, but the occasional recruitment email from a founder/recruiter who clearly looked quite deeply into my passion projects always felt good and resulted in a nice conversation even if the opportunity didn’t pan out.

It’s sad that going forward I probably won’t be able to tell genuine interest from this kind of fake bullshit.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by [deleted] »

taylorius wrote: post #161

The future - megawatts of electricity being used, 24/7 as armies of LLMs email and debate each other, and try to sell each other programs at a great discount. As for the humans, we went fishing instead.

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Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by slhck »

louwhopley wrote: post #167
slhck wrote: post #106

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Just saw this, and as a small business owner in the B2B market, this sounds very useful. Gmail's existing spam filters do not reliably detect this type of marketing. I wish your landing page had a simple "how it works" explanation with a screen shot or diagram, rather than forcing me to sign in directly, and also allowing the app to read *and* send emails. Also, I don't see any pricing? Finally, signing up, I got an…

Thanks for the useful feedback! Totally forgot that pricing was never added to the landing page → have added to the todo list to fix up. Where in the process did that error occur for you? I see in the logs that an error registered, but unfortunately no detail attached. I've beefed up the logging a bit in the onboarding journey on my side to see what could be breaking here if we try again. Mind trying to log-in/sign u…

The error occurred right after granting permissions from my Google account. The permissions were granted but I could never access your application page. I just tried again, now I got an "Error handling OAuth callback" after granting permissions. Signing in again does not work either. (I did remove all of the app's permissions in my Google security settings before, so to Google it looked like the application was requesting all of its permissions again.)

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by Sander_Marechal »

N0b8ez wrote: post #157
choeger wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ozempic reduces appetite, right? So food producers cannot be happy about it.

I love the idea of the comic villainy of someone who deliberately chooses to organize a team to find ways to circumvent Ozempic in order to keep their buyers unhealthy and addicted. Could such a schemer have an internal monologue, and what would it consist of? What do they see when they look into a mirror? Their experience of reality must be utterly fascinating and alien.

Just ask an MBA focused on short term profit.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by Ekaros »

purple-leafy wrote: post #30
Brajeshwar wrote: post #26

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I'd rather delete/block it than reply/react to it at all. If you react, they know you exist and you are a valid target to re-target repeatedly, resold to other marketers. Mark as SPAM or Block/Filter or Ignore.

Okay new plan, I’ll have another email that responds to the email and says “fuck off”, meanwhile my honeypot email will block and mark as spam

Sadly I think it is illegal to sing up these addresses to every service known to you... Otherwise it would be interesting SaaS opportunity. Automatically sing-up spammers to any number of newsletters or contact forms...

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by lucianbr »

N0b8ez wrote: post #157
choeger wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ozempic reduces appetite, right? So food producers cannot be happy about it.

I love the idea of the comic villainy of someone who deliberately chooses to organize a team to find ways to circumvent Ozempic in order to keep their buyers unhealthy and addicted. Could such a schemer have an internal monologue, and what would it consist of? What do they see when they look into a mirror? Their experience of reality must be utterly fascinating and alien.

Read the blog post that this blog post talks about - the one that says "we use AI to spam people, isn't it great?". It will be something like that. As long as there is money to be made, the internal monologue is just "hope this works and I get more money".

> What do they see when they look into a mirror?

A person deserving of riches, that is about to get them. Nobody sees themselves as the villain. Well, maybe some, but vanishingly few.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by Ameo »

castigatio wrote: post #17

It's a sign of things to come. We're going to have our own AI agents that filter and respond (or not respond) to these kinds of messages. Agents interacting with other agents. The bar to get hold of a real person is going to become that much higher. It is going to be messy for some time as agents war with other agents to reach the human eyeball. Some assholes are going to make a ton of money in the short term exploit…

This is the _exact_ scenario described in the novel Permutation City by Greg Egan. There's a whole little spot devoted to describing one of the character's setups for having their own little agents to pretend to be them in order to fool agent-powered spam emails into thinking they're being read by a real human.

The crazy part is that book was released in 1994! Iirc Greg Egan isn't a big fan of modern "AI", wishing instead for a more axiom-based system rather than a predict-the-next-token model. But in any case, I was re-reading it recently and shocked at how closely that plot point was aligning with the way things are actually shaping up in the world.

The timeframe for this happening in the book was 2050 btw

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by sph »

taylorius wrote: post #161

The future - megawatts of electricity being used, 24/7 as armies of LLMs email and debate each other, and try to sell each other programs at a great discount. As for the humans, we went fishing instead.

People cry about Bitcoin's energy usage now, imagine the amount of energy burned to create next-level spam with "AI".

Flame me all you want, but this is one case where Bitcoin is much more useful than LLM. If it doesn't create value, as its naysayers claim, at least it allows exchanging value. LLMs on the other hand, burn electricity to actively destroy the Internet's value, for the profit of inept and greedy drones.

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