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How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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post #204

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What I’m trying to teach myself to do whenever I think “this is ridiculous overcomplexity” is to imagine whose life it might make simpler. Let’s assume I have some sort of motor disability: it could be anything from Parkinsons to quadraplegia. Having a bridge out to a common controller that maybe works on speech or some other standardised input method that works for your disability is a massive benefit. And avoids ha…

You certainly don't need a cloud defaulted device in order to do what you describe. There are plenty of assistants, Google and Alexa being two, that can talk to things on your local network with a REST API. That controller also has a gig of memory, plenty enough to run a little API. What manufacturers like about cloud enabled devices is that they can automatically upgrade the firmware and they can get semi-accurate c…

I think this goes right back to the parent's point.

I presume you personally could set that up. I probably could too. But 99% of the world isn't tech experts and can't do that. Or fix it if something goes wrong. Even if you can, you might just want to go to bed and not have to debug a broken assistant integration first.

The benefit of cloud integration, for that 99%, is that there is a professional out there to keep it working.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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post #73
post #32

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Why would I want so much software in my bed that even makes sense to discuss updating it?

Updating the domain name the server talks to, updating the security system (like supporting new versions of TLS, updating certificates, etc). TBH, I wouldn't trust a custom hardware chip that can decrypt the traffic and have it last for the life of the product.

I wouldn't trust a bed that sends traffic to a remote server.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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post #221
post #204

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You certainly don't need a cloud defaulted device in order to do what you describe. There are plenty of assistants, Google and Alexa being two, that can talk to things on your local network with a REST API. That controller also has a gig of memory, plenty enough to run a little API. What manufacturers like about cloud enabled devices is that they can automatically upgrade the firmware and they can get semi-accurate c…

I think this goes right back to the parent's point. I presume you personally could set that up. I probably could too. But 99% of the world isn't tech experts and can't do that. Or fix it if something goes wrong. Even if you can, you might just want to go to bed and not have to debug a broken assistant integration first. The benefit of cloud integration, for that 99%, is that there is a professional out there to keep…

Maybe. My point is that there wasn't really an attempt at solving those things locally first. They just went straight to cloud with the reasoning you mentioned.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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>The hub communicates with the Sleep Number servers by opening an SSH tunnel and providing a reverse tunnel back to the hub that their developers can use to connect to the hub and do maintenance when needed. Kinda interested just to see what the parameters of this are like. Is it using PubkeyAuth or just password? Is it tunnelling home via ip or dns? If everything is just right, I can imagine the setup for the most h…

>The hub communicates with the Sleep Number servers by opening an SSH tunnel and providing a reverse tunnel back to the hub that their developers can use to connect to the hub and do maintenance when needed.

Shouldn't bed owners sue them if they haven't been warned of that fact prior to purchase? Getting illegitimate access to your network and backdooring it is criminal offense right?

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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post #159

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No it's actually 2-3k+ usd. I had done some cursory considering of it over the past few months because it seems like a potentially reasonable solution to a real problem I struggle with. But yeah part of it is like, it's really weird. If you asked me how much consistently better sleep would be worth, the answer is how much do you want? But phrase that as "Bed as a service" and my reflex is "you're kidding, righr?"

> If you asked me how much consistently better sleep would be worth, the answer is how much do you want? Get to bed early, sleep cool, don't use an alarm? (also don't work shifts)

> don't use an alarm? (also don't work shifts)

You forgot 'don't be poor'

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Anyone else getting cloudfare blocked on TFA?

I tried 2 different IP addresses from Brazil and they got blocked.

I tried an IP address from the USA and another from Canada, and both worked correctly.

The message you get when you're blocked is:

  Sorry, you have been blocked
  You are unable to access dillan.org
  Performance & security by Cloudflare

  Why have I been blocked?
  This website is using a security service
  to protect itself from online attacks.
  The action you just performed triggered
  the security solution. There are several
  actions that could trigger this block
  including submitting a certain word or
  phrase, a SQL command or malformed data.
which is false since I wasn't doing any of the things they list.

I wonder why they think that Brazil and other countries shouldn't be reading this site? Is the owner of the site able to geo-target which countries he wants his site to be shown in via Cloudflare?

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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>The hub communicates with the Sleep Number servers by opening an SSH tunnel and providing a reverse tunnel back to the hub that their developers can use to connect to the hub and do maintenance when needed. Kinda interested just to see what the parameters of this are like. Is it using PubkeyAuth or just password? Is it tunnelling home via ip or dns? If everything is just right, I can imagine the setup for the most h…

>The hub communicates with the Sleep Number servers by opening an SSH tunnel and providing a reverse tunnel back to the hub that their developers can use to connect to the hub and do maintenance when needed. Shouldn't bed owners sue them if they haven't been warned of that fact prior to purchase? Getting illegitimate access to your network and backdooring it is criminal offense right?

I'm sure there was a T&C that included all this and you waive rights to complain about this or join a class action about it.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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I'm interested if anyone has pulled the same thing with eight sleep. Not having access to control my bed's temperature because my internet is out bothers me deeply.

I was going to buy an Eight Sleep and then I immediately lost interest when I realized they pull this shit. If I'm paying you over $1000 for a mattress cover, I'm not paying you "rent" money just so the thing will work.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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post #110

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What fresh hell is that. Why does it need to reach out to the internet?

To ensure you've paid your monthly subscription fee (Not joking - the mattress cover has a subscription)

It's no doubt also collecting data on you.
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