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Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by billconan »

clementpiki wrote: post #42
billconan wrote: post #14

but I think each browser tab has a memory limit of 4gb? this means a web based video editor can only work on short clips?

While doing my testings, it does not appear that a tab is limited to 4GB. A typical project in After Effects is not longer than a few minutes of duration. Let's say you work on a 2 hours movie, each AE project would be about a 1 minute shot where sfx need to be applied. Pikimov was created with the same behavior in mind, not made to edit a full movie in one go

some say the default limit is now 12gb

https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40691287

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by PetitPrince »

beardyw wrote: post #9

I feel like that web only is a positive way forward. If only it was possible to prove nothing goes back to the server I think it would gain a lot more trust. Though companies who want to see your data might not be so keen. On my phone, but will try it out when I get home.

Naive answer: isn't the browser network tab enough?

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by clementpiki »

rootlocus wrote: post #44
ffsm8 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of factors at play that makes your assumption not necessarily correct. I.e. 1. Newer API such as directory access, which would let the app utilize something like swap as necessarily. And only ever loading the data it can currently handle from the filesystem ( https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File_System... ) 2. Input doesn't necessarily have to be RAW/8k. You get several h of 1080p AV1 video with…

1. Swapping to disk would kill the performance to an unnacceptable level. 2. I'm assuming video editing software works on a raw format in memory with access to individual frames? Just like Photoshop would need access to individual pixels from an importend JPEG, the actual canvas uses a lot more memory than the compressed input format.

That's correct, access to each pixel of each video frame is needed. Each video frame must be inflated from its codec compression.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by alok-g »

Side comment:

Comparing a web-based software that runs on your own computer vs. installing a (say native) software and frequently updating, isn't it interesting that the former is faster to do? When using a web-based software to ru on your own machine, you are effectively, momentarily, installing it and are able to uninstall by clearing the cache.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by creshal »

lifty wrote: post #53
beardyw wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Needs browser support really. Probably harder than we imagine.

There should be an electron local app for running offline web apps. Shouldn't be too hard to build.

Desktop browsers have surprisingly reasonable support for offline PWAs and integrate them as desktop shortcuts etc. Better than Android and iOS, in my experience, although neither is a hard bar to clear.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by Timon3 »

beardyw wrote: post #9

I feel like that web only is a positive way forward. If only it was possible to prove nothing goes back to the server I think it would gain a lot more trust. Though companies who want to see your data might not be so keen. On my phone, but will try it out when I get home.

I've long wished for something like OpenBSDs pledge to be available in browsers, ideally both through meta tags and through JS APIs. Once a pledge is made, the resource will be unavailable to the page until it's closed, like:

- I pledge to only make network connections to X, Y and Z

- I pledge to only make GET requests to http://example.com/foo/*

- I pledge not to use canvas, iFrames or storage APIs

This info wouldn't be immediately useful to most users, but it could massively help experienced users with trusting local utilities.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by creshal »

clementpiki wrote: post #46
notachatbot1234 wrote: post #12

It says "Privacy respected" but there are Google Ads and Analytics included.

Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't. I need those infos to undertand where I should focus, what are users the more interested in. By "Privacy respected", I meant that I am not asking you for your email, your name, and what you do on the editor stays on your machine: no cloud uploads of your files.

> Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't.

There's plenty of alternatives to google analytics though. This sort of basic breakdown could be done with goaccess (or an awk one-liner); plausible, matomo or simple analytics would be decent options that cover most reasonable requirements.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by kennydude »

Looks fantastic, and the comment about Photopea. Photopea is such a gem, and can't wait for their Vectorpea to launch as it's got me out of trouble so many times when I don't need an Adobe license for opening a file once a month or so (I just wish Photopea was OpenSource)

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by latexr »

MitPitt wrote: post #52
beardyw wrote: post #9

I feel like that web only is a positive way forward. If only it was possible to prove nothing goes back to the server I think it would gain a lot more trust. Though companies who want to see your data might not be so keen. On my phone, but will try it out when I get home.

What about just turning off your network?

That means you have to keep the network off for as long as you’re using the app, which is inconvenient.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by andybak »

rootlocus wrote: post #47
tigeroil wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say that but in my experience the same kinds of people who will say that are also the kinds of people who demonstrably don't actually even know what AI is. They're the same types who'll insist that DALL-E is just making collages of other artists' work, for example.

It's a black box that takes human produced artwork without consent and spits out superficial mediocre content a dime a dozen. It also takes away developer time and focus from other aspects of the software. I don't think you need to understand the algorithms underneath to have a problem with that.

It's possible to be a reasonable, thoughtful person and disagree with aspects of what you just wrote.

Personally I dislike being morally steamrollered on complex, nuanced topics.

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