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Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by tigeroil »

smolder wrote: post #19
ottorocket wrote: post #7

Funny how "No AI" has become an feature. As someone how doesn't know anything about motion design, this looks great!

The other day I recommended someone try out pixlr as a free image editor, as I remember it being a nice tool, and they told me "I don't want an AI tool. I hate AI." I was confused, went to the site, and saw it is plastered with adverts for some AI image generation features. The actual editor seems buried. People do NOT like having AI stuff shoved in their face. The investors out there pushing every company to develop…

You say that but in my experience the same kinds of people who will say that are also the kinds of people who demonstrably don't actually even know what AI is.

They're the same types who'll insist that DALL-E is just making collages of other artists' work, for example.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by clementpiki »

billconan wrote: post #14

but I think each browser tab has a memory limit of 4gb? this means a web based video editor can only work on short clips?

While doing my testings, it does not appear that a tab is limited to 4GB. A typical project in After Effects is not longer than a few minutes of duration. Let's say you work on a 2 hours movie, each AE project would be about a 1 minute shot where sfx need to be applied. Pikimov was created with the same behavior in mind, not made to edit a full movie in one go

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by rabf »

gatinsama wrote: post #6

Great idea and the product looks great. I looked everywhere for a suitable substitute for AE and there was none.

As well as the already Davinci Resolve there is Natron:

https://natrongithub.github.io/

"Open Source Compositing Software For VFX and Motion Graphics."

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by rootlocus »

ffsm8 wrote: post #22
billconan wrote: post #14

but I think each browser tab has a memory limit of 4gb? this means a web based video editor can only work on short clips?

Lots of factors at play that makes your assumption not necessarily correct. I.e. 1. Newer API such as directory access, which would let the app utilize something like swap as necessarily. And only ever loading the data it can currently handle from the filesystem ( https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File_System... ) 2. Input doesn't necessarily have to be RAW/8k. You get several h of 1080p AV1 video with…

1. Swapping to disk would kill the performance to an unnacceptable level.

2. I'm assuming video editing software works on a raw format in memory with access to individual frames? Just like Photoshop would need access to individual pixels from an importend JPEG, the actual canvas uses a lot more memory than the compressed input format.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by akanet »

vlugorilla wrote: post #36

this is awesome. I hope some video editor comes up that can compete with Premiere. Then with pikimov and photopea, I could totally ditch Adobe for one. Have you considered open sourcing the app to benefit from contributors and build a community?

There are many editors that compete with Premiere, which at this point is a janky unusable mess for me. Resolve has been a joy to work with.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by clementpiki »

notachatbot1234 wrote: post #12

It says "Privacy respected" but there are Google Ads and Analytics included.

Without Analytics, I'm blind: I can't tell which feature are popular and which aren't. I need those infos to undertand where I should focus, what are users the more interested in. By "Privacy respected", I meant that I am not asking you for your email, your name, and what you do on the editor stays on your machine: no cloud uploads of your files.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by rootlocus »

tigeroil wrote: post #41
smolder wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other day I recommended someone try out pixlr as a free image editor, as I remember it being a nice tool, and they told me "I don't want an AI tool. I hate AI." I was confused, went to the site, and saw it is plastered with adverts for some AI image generation features. The actual editor seems buried. People do NOT like having AI stuff shoved in their face. The investors out there pushing every company to develop…

You say that but in my experience the same kinds of people who will say that are also the kinds of people who demonstrably don't actually even know what AI is. They're the same types who'll insist that DALL-E is just making collages of other artists' work, for example.

It's a black box that takes human produced artwork without consent and spits out superficial mediocre content a dime a dozen. It also takes away developer time and focus from other aspects of the software. I don't think you need to understand the algorithms underneath to have a problem with that.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by clementpiki »

dorkwood wrote: post #32

Is there an option for custom ease curves, like a graph editor? I love the idea of an After Effects alternative, but if it only has a few simple ease functions to choose from I can't see myself using it much, sadly.

Not yet, but it has already been asked several times, so I'll keep that in mind. There's balance hard to find: should I try to make it as complete as AE, or make it a simpler so it's more accessible.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by AshleysBrain »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #28

Can you please clarify, which exactly key features are missing from Firefox that make this app say 'use Chrome or Edge'?

As I mentioned in another comment, in short, WebCodecs and File System Access API I believe. Both pretty essential for an app designed for editing large video files from disk.

Re: Show HN: I created an After Effects alternative

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Post by rom1v »

ayhanfuat wrote: post #34
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #28

Can you please clarify, which exactly key features are missing from Firefox that make this app say 'use Chrome or Edge'?

From the FAQ: > Why no Firefox support Firefox is my daily web browser. As a web developper, I always make sure my work is comptatible with all major browsers. But you can guess a web based video editor is a complex task to achieve, and Pikimov uses several key features that only exist in Chrome, Edge, and maybe Opera, and maybe, maybe, Brave. That's why Pikimov cannot currently work on Firefox (as of today: v127), t…

For AudioData and VideoEncoder, it should be possible to enable webcodecs by setting dom.media.webcodecs.enabled to true in about:config.

- https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/af09c55c0e6253ba8f...

- https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/af09c55c0e6253ba8f...

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