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Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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There has been a lot of discussion on HN about dedicated hosting at Hetzner vs Amazon, and while they offer different pros and cons, Amazon appears to be a lot more expensive for comparable or even worse specs. Here's a comparison of two servers that have roughly comparable specs, Amazon High-Memory Double Extra Large and Hetzner ex8s: cpu: hetzner: Intel Xeon E3-1275 (4 physical cores) ec2: 4 virtual cores (13 "ecus…

An Hetzner box is still ~4 times faster despite being so much cheaper. Both the c1.large and m1.xlarge are slower than a decent 9-10 year old server costing less than $100/mo. The same server can be purchased for less than $200 on eBay! See my benchmarks: http://blog.carlmercier.com/2012/01/05/ec2-is-basically-one-...

Actually you didn't even pick the best benchmark. Almost all dedicated servers support AES-NI which can make a staggering difference to your site's SSL performance. This is not available to EC2 AFAIK.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/clarkdale-aes-ni-encrypt...

http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,181676

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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post #57

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An Hetzner box is still ~4 times faster despite being so much cheaper. Both the c1.large and m1.xlarge are slower than a decent 9-10 year old server costing less than $100/mo. The same server can be purchased for less than $200 on eBay! See my benchmarks: http://blog.carlmercier.com/2012/01/05/ec2-is-basically-one-...

Actually you didn't even pick the best benchmark. Almost all dedicated servers support AES-NI which can make a staggering difference to your site's SSL performance. This is not available to EC2 AFAIK. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/clarkdale-aes-ni-encrypt... http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,181676

You get my upvote. I had never heard of this before. Definitely interesting and something to keep in mind nowadays.

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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I always tell people that EC2 generally costs more than a VPS. They don't believe me until they actually do the calculation. You have to factor in things like bandwidth and storage as well (which is usually included for services like linode or slicehost).

My experience with ec2 is that you get significantly better performance for the price. An ec2 micro is possible to run a webapp with moderate traffic from, a comparably prices VPS migt have similar stated specs but they're all so oversold they can't really be used for anything worthwhile.

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Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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What can we do better? What don't we tell you that would help you to make a more informed decision?

In many ways, I love AWS. But the web page is possibly the least user-friendly page I visit with any frequency. Even after I am signed into AWS, there are "Sign Up Now" buttons everywhere. So, it's confusing whether or not I am signed in. I expect the big icon in the upper left to bring me to a useful "home page" like the AWS management console. Instead it brings me to a page that is just a big advertisement (for ser…

Thank you, this is awesome. I'll be sharing this thread around the office in a few hours.

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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post #62

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Actually you didn't even pick the best benchmark. Almost all dedicated servers support AES-NI which can make a staggering difference to your site's SSL performance. This is not available to EC2 AFAIK. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/clarkdale-aes-ni-encrypt... http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,181676

You get my upvote. I had never heard of this before. Definitely interesting and something to keep in mind nowadays.

I know I only stumbled it across it recently. It's strange because as SPDY takes off SSL is going to be a critical part of the overall performance.

Apparently AES-NI is also available in version Xen 4.0+ for VPS users as well. Something to ask your VPS provider.

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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I thought it was well known that Amazon is very expensive compared to ANY dedicated hosting provider. But that's not the point of AWS. The point is that you get a PLATFORM as a service. Not just a box. You get an enterprise class queuing, workflow, load balancing, DNS etc all in the one place. Not to mention it's unrivalled auto scaling features.

These are not magic features. You still have to make your app scale. And once you did it, it works as well on dedicated servers. Dedicated servers come with dedicated disks or SSDs, memory, CPUs, network cards. Decent dedicated hosting providers deliver new servers in a few hours. And they too provide load balancing, dns, filers, backups, elastic ips, etc. The only difference between AWS or a decent dedicated servers…

Dedicated providers don't provide SQS, SWF, S3, SimpleDB, RDS, DynamoDB, EMR, Search. Which for me anyway are essential as they are enterprise class, very cheap, managed, scalable solutions.

The best combination is a dedicated server for the app server that is close to Amazon.

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Can agree with that. 1 month vs 3 years. In fact we ourselves, have not been able to go for a reserved instance yet. Although have been thinking about it for an year or so. As there is always a likeliness of going to a bigger configuration in the near future (small->medium or medium->large etc.). So you are not sure if reserving is a good idea. So you settle for the gains of the on-demand e.g. having more instances i…

Reserved instances are not tied to a specific machine. If you buy say 5 reserved instances of a specific server type, you have a pool of servers that can run at a discount. IE if you decide your DB needs to go on a bigger box you can apply the reserved instance discount to some of your application servers or whatever.

They are tied to the availability zone though.

Not a big deal if you are from the US but if you are from Australia for example then you wouldn't be able to take advantage of a Sydney availability zone if it become available (as it is rumored).

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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There has been a lot of discussion on HN about dedicated hosting at Hetzner vs Amazon, and while they offer different pros and cons, Amazon appears to be a lot more expensive for comparable or even worse specs. Here's a comparison of two servers that have roughly comparable specs, Amazon High-Memory Double Extra Large and Hetzner ex8s: cpu: hetzner: Intel Xeon E3-1275 (4 physical cores) ec2: 4 virtual cores (13 "ecus…

Can anyone recommend a service/person that can properly install a virtualization service on a Hetzner server?

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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What can we do better? What don't we tell you that would help you to make a more informed decision?

In many ways, I love AWS. But the web page is possibly the least user-friendly page I visit with any frequency. Even after I am signed into AWS, there are "Sign Up Now" buttons everywhere. So, it's confusing whether or not I am signed in. I expect the big icon in the upper left to bring me to a useful "home page" like the AWS management console. Instead it brings me to a page that is just a big advertisement (for ser…

One more issue...if you login with a non-ec2 amazon account there's no logout link. I end up having to clear my cookies.
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