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Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google quite rightfully cares very little about what Hacker News has to say anything.

That’s not the point. It’s an observation of how Google’s lost its status amongst hackers. It’s well into its transition into becoming the next IBM.

That is not a recent phenomenon. Google has always been an ad company.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#152

This doesn't seem useful unless it's something standardized across browsers. Otherwise I'd still need to use a plugin to support safari, etc. It seems like it could be nice for something like a bookmarklet or a one-off script, but I don't think it'll really reduce friction in engaging with Gemini for serious web apps.

I'm sure you realize that Google's strategy has long been the opposite: that users will continue to abandon other engines when theirs is the only one that supports capabilities, until standards no longer matter at all and the entire browser ecosystem is theirs. Chrome may have been a darling thing when it was young, but is now just a fresh take on Microsoft's Internet Explorer strategy. MS lost it's hold on the web b…

> users will continue to abandon other engines when theirs is the only one that supports capabilities

That’s why people chose chrome? Citation needed. I’ve very rarely seen websites rely on new browser specific capabilities, except for demos/showcases.

Didn’t Chrome slowly become popular using Google's own marketing channel, search? That’s what I thought.

> MS lost it's hold on the web because of regulatory action

Well, not only. They objectively made a worse product for decades and used their platform to push it, much more effectively than Google too. They are still pushing Edge hard, with darker patterns than Google imo.

In either case, the decision to adopt Chromium wasn’t forced. Microsoft clearly must have been aligned enough on the capability model to not deem it a large risk, and continued to push for Edge just as they did with IE.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#153

Alright, here’s a take I haven’t seen in this thread yet: how could this be used for fingerprinting, beyond an existence check for the API itself?

This assumes the model is different on each computer. And that made me realize that Google might start training it with your browser history. Anything is possible at this point.

Even if the model data is the same - we have seen that fingerprinting can be applied to WebGL, so if hardware acceleration is used to run those models, it might be possible to fingerprint the hardware based on the outputs?

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#156

Man, the bloat is unreal. Can't we just have a browser without all the extra crap?

I guess the lessons of Clippy have vanished from history.

Yesterday upon restarting my PC a Skype dialog popped up inviting me to see how CoPilot could help me. So naturally I went into the task manager and shut down the Skype processes.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#157
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So many AI applications right now are just buzzword plays like that, burning hundreds of watts and seconds of latency on features that are already solved better and cheaper with traditional programs. But lots of both stakeholders and users currently value the "magic" itself over anything practical.

> So many AI applications right now are just buzzword plays like that, burning hundreds of watts and seconds of latency on features that are already solved better and cheaper with traditional programs. Internet has been already like genAI for decades. Need a picture? Prompt in the Google Image search a few keywords. There are billions of human made images to choose from. Need to find information about something? Agai…

I feel like you're describing "Intelligence" as opposed to "Artificial Intelligence"?

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#158

Alright, here’s a take I haven’t seen in this thread yet: how could this be used for fingerprinting, beyond an existence check for the API itself?

These models make heavy use of RNG (random number generator), so it would be difficult to fingerprint based on the output tokens. It may be possible to use specially crafted prompts that yield predictable results. Otherwise, just timing how long it takes to generate tokens locally.

There's already so many ways to fingerprint users which are far more reliable though.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google quite rightfully cares very little about what Hacker News has to say anything.

That’s not the point. It’s an observation of how Google’s lost its status amongst hackers. It’s well into its transition into becoming the next IBM.

It has been the "next IBM" for at least 5 years
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