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How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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The author of this site usually takes pains to obfuscate whatever big commercial entity she's talking about who did dumb stuff. But when it's Firefox, she names names. Huh.

The author obfuscates her employers. Stuff she discovers as an end user will get named.

Her recent series on RSS feed readers has avoided naming virtually any of them.

I can't imagine she is working for them all.

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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Firefox on android can run ublock origin. The internet is unusable on mobile otherwise. But go on and let google continue to 'wow'you with their amazing ad tech. Firefox on android IS AMAZING.

Absolutely. I was an Android user for years and got an iPhone as a gift in 2022. On Android, I used Firefox with uBlock Origin. Mobile web browsing is not the best experience regardless, but that made it tolerable. The worst thing about the iPhone is the web browsing experience in Safari. It's awful. The ads totally ruin it. The rest of the phone is fine, I still prefer Android but that's most likely just because it'…

There are adblockers for iOS - I’m using 1Blocker with Safari. Genuine question: Are the iOS adblockers limited in some way that make them inferior compared to what you were using with your Android phone?

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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Firefox on android can run ublock origin. The internet is unusable on mobile otherwise. But go on and let google continue to 'wow'you with their amazing ad tech. Firefox on android IS AMAZING.

Absolutely. I was an Android user for years and got an iPhone as a gift in 2022. On Android, I used Firefox with uBlock Origin. Mobile web browsing is not the best experience regardless, but that made it tolerable. The worst thing about the iPhone is the web browsing experience in Safari. It's awful. The ads totally ruin it. The rest of the phone is fine, I still prefer Android but that's most likely just because it'…

I use ad guard, vinegar and wipr on iPhone safari and browsing is fine

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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There's Brave on Android fwiw.

Brave is still just a fancy Chromium reskin, I'll use any other engine than Chrome if it's even remotely possible

I think the main thing is the point is the adblocker is in there. And as another poster pointed out, they do use the webkit engine, but they can do lots of things besides that to improve the browser from “reskinned safari” like lots of people seem to be claiming.

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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Absolutely. I was an Android user for years and got an iPhone as a gift in 2022. On Android, I used Firefox with uBlock Origin. Mobile web browsing is not the best experience regardless, but that made it tolerable. The worst thing about the iPhone is the web browsing experience in Safari. It's awful. The ads totally ruin it. The rest of the phone is fine, I still prefer Android but that's most likely just because it'…

There are adblockers for iOS - I’m using 1Blocker with Safari. Genuine question: Are the iOS adblockers limited in some way that make them inferior compared to what you were using with your Android phone?

The only adblocker I have used is uBlock. I don't really know how adblockers work for Safari, it doesn't seem obvious. I don't like installing apps, and it seems that they are mostly apps?

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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> Wasteful, sure, but hardly that big a deal This attitude is why so much software is garbage, and why people with limited connections or hardware can't have a good time on the internet.

In this case, using a CDN in front of the server is the thing which would improve things for people with limited bw/hw more quickly and to a greater extent than counting the fetches by Firefox on iOS and calling it out for fetching too much

  >In this case, [X] would improve things more quickly than [Y].
Maybe so, but more importantly why are you phrasing this like it's an either/or choice?

"We, the developer community, contain multitudes." Clearly we can (and should) do both.

Besides the obvious benefits at the higher community level of organization, deploying both solutions will result in even less bandwidth and power wasted from this specific bug than using either solution by itself.

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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These can be solved by or something. Do this require a browser probing every path with /favicon.ico?

Not every file displayed in a browser is a html document.

Ah, yes, how could I forgot what https://contoso.tld/users/6510/grocerylist.jpg is the file what is very prominently displayed in a browser of the every contoso.tld visitor, so it definitely demands for the browser to query https://contoso.tld/users/6510/grocerylist.jpg/favicon.ico just in case user 6510 would want to display a custom favicon when someone is watching that grocerylist.jpg, right?

I understand what you tried to retort just to retort, but I've had asked for the actual use-cases, not the mock ones and purely hypothetical.

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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> Having a path-specific favicon actually sounds like a feature. Can you provide at least a couple of use-cases for a path specific favicons?

Many. Though they aren't common enough that it needs to be a built-in, especially as you can already specify a page specific icon via a link tag in your page's head which every up-to-date stable browser has had support for since 2010 or before (ref: https://caniuse.com/?search=link-icon ).

> Many.

Can I see them?

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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But if clients were considerate, we wouldn't need to waste electricity and work hours to run CDNs?

You would want a CDN anyway to cache data across users, on servers close to those users, cutting the time & energy spent to serve the data.

I feel like this is a marketing meme by cdn providers that gets parroted a lot. As someone who has used CDNs vs hosting on the server directly, CDNs are slower to load the images especially when there is a cache miss. The only reason I’m using a cdn is because I need to host 100gb+ images. If it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t use a cdn and get a better experience on the site.

Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins

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There's Brave on Android fwiw.

Brave has similar anti-privacy/adtech built in They even market it: https://brave.com/brave-ads/

..on their search, not the browser. That's like saying Safari has "anti-privacy/adtech builtin" because Google is their default search engine. You just switch to a search engine of your liking.
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