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Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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I hope it can be disabled.

It can, on every OS except ChromeOS, running Chrome is still optional.

Surely an enterprising hacker somewhere has figured out how to replace Chrome on Chromebooks by now?

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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My first impression is that this should enable approximately what Apple is doing with their AI strategy (local on-device first, then filling back to a first party API, and finally something like ChatGPT), but for web users. Having it native in the browser could be really positive for a lot of use cases depending on whether the local version can do things like RAG using locally stored data, and generate structured inf…

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Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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AI brain rot continues but now it's reaching unimaginable levels and infecting browser APIs, wow!

Why is it brain rot? It still blows my mind that it’s even possible for a low-power device to talk and behave like us. For all practical purposes, LLMs pass the Turing test. This a major leap forward in human innovation and engineering. IMO, this could be as influential as the adoption of electricity/setting up of the power grid.

> Why is it brain rot?

Because there is a ton of hyper fixation and rash decisions being made over something that puts words together. It seems very unwise to add a new browser API for something that is in its infancy and being developed.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#54

AI brain rot continues but now it's reaching unimaginable levels and infecting browser APIs, wow!

Why is it brain rot? It still blows my mind that it’s even possible for a low-power device to talk and behave like us. For all practical purposes, LLMs pass the Turing test. This a major leap forward in human innovation and engineering. IMO, this could be as influential as the adoption of electricity/setting up of the power grid.

I share a bit of parent's skepticism: the possibilities are infinite (as many things really), but do we need to dive in head first and sprinkle "AI" dust everywhere just in case some of it could be useful ?

For instance I don't need my browser to pass the Turing test. I might need better filtering and better search, but it also doesn't need to be baked in the browser.

Your analogy to electricity is interesting: do you feel the need to add electricity to your bed, dining table, chairs, shelves, bathroom shower, nose clip etc.

We kept electric and non electric things somewhat separate, even as each tool and appliance can work together (e.g. my table has a power strip clipped to it, but both are completely separate things)

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

#55

AI brain rot continues but now it's reaching unimaginable levels and infecting browser APIs, wow!

Why is it brain rot? It still blows my mind that it’s even possible for a low-power device to talk and behave like us. For all practical purposes, LLMs pass the Turing test. This a major leap forward in human innovation and engineering. IMO, this could be as influential as the adoption of electricity/setting up of the power grid.

llm's are to intelligence as sugar is to nutrition

triggers the part of you that says "this tastes good" but will rot your teeth

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you expecting Apple to not add AI right in their own browser, after their 1 hour "we also do AI" presentation this month ?

There was already talk of using it in Safari to allow users to create custom filters to persistently block portions of a given website. Sort of like using ChatGPT to help figure out how to use FFmpeg to accomplish a task from the command prompt, but used to create the equivalent of greasemonkey scripts.

In my mind there is a big difference between the browser using it for features and letting any random website burn my electricity on a new scale for crap I never agreed to.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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And my love for Safari goes up a little more.

Are you expecting Apple to not add AI right in their own browser, after their 1 hour "we also do AI" presentation this month ?

I’m ok with Apple doing it. I chose Apple.

I don’t want the API. I don’t want random websites burning my battery on AI nonsense I never asked for to make the ads on page more engaging or some other nonsense.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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I mostly think it's an interesting concept that can allow many interesting user experiences. At the same time, it is a major risk for browser compatibility. Despite many articles claiming otherwise, I think we mostly avoided repeating the "works only on IE6" situation with chrome. Google did kinda try at times, but most things didn't catch on. This I think has the potential to do some damage on that front.

Microsoft, Mozilla and Apple all have the resources to provide competitive small LLMs in their own browsers’ implementation of window.ai if this catches on. A 3B sized model isn’t a moat for Chrome.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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Sigh, don't make me tap the sign*. I used to hold Google Chrome in high esteem due to its security posture. Shoehorning AI into it has deleted any respect I held for Chrome or the team that develops it. Trust arrives on foot and leaves on horseback. * The sign: https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fucking-piledrive-you...

What a needlessly hostile and cynical blog post. I also can't relate to their appraisal of copilot. It's been an incredible productivity booster for me in how it removes so much cognitive load that's tangential to the problem I'm solving. It mostly completes the same line/s I was about to type, sometimes even pointing out an error in my code when the output is odd. It's also awesome when it spits out 20+ lines unexpe…

Funny, that's been pretty much the opposite of my experience with Copilot (or any other LLM-based code assistant). It constantly spits out lines that are similar to what I was planning to write, but are subtly wrong in ways that take me more time to figure out and fix than it would have to just write it myself in the first place.

It's handy if I want a snippet of example code that I could've just found on Stackoverflow, but not useful for anything I actually have to think about.

Re: Chrome is adding `window.ai` – a Gemini Nano AI model right inside the browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can, on every OS except ChromeOS, running Chrome is still optional.

Surely an enterprising hacker somewhere has figured out how to replace Chrome on Chromebooks by now?

Of course: https://mrchromebox.tech/#fwscript
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