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Nope, for me it includes the Android version but no device model information.
They fixed it after the issue was present for MANY YEARS, exactly as stated.
OK, so it was NOT amazing for MANY YEARS, but now it is ;-)
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Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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Not ever had Firefox for android be slow and buggy for myself! I've been using it in place of chrome on my phone for a good year. Honestly everyone keeps talking about how FF is "slow and buggy" and it has NEVER given me issue :/ why is my subjective experience so different to your subjective experience? Meanwhile chrome/chromium is the one which is most likely to cause me GPU driver crashes, but that's because I use…
There could just be a difference in hardware. I'm a Firefox user but there is a noticeable difference, just not one that matters much on a top tier soc
Loading JS heavy pages like Twitter on Firefox Android is way slower than Chromium based. Very noticeable on 2019 hardware, less so but still on 2022 hardware.
Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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Firefox on android can run ublock origin. The internet is unusable on mobile otherwise. But go on and let google continue to 'wow'you with their amazing ad tech. Firefox on android IS AMAZING.
No it's not. It's slow and buggy. You can also use an adblocking DNS like AdGuard and have adblocking system-wide. Yes I know uBlock blocks a bit better but DNS-blocking suffices. Also, there are other browsers with integrated adblockers based on Chromium.
You've been downvoted but I would like to echo this comment.
I use Firefox mobile daily, I occasionally have to switch to Chrome for some things. I choose to continue using Firefox Android because of the ability for greater privacy.
Firefox android is slow and buggy.
It is especially terrible if you are not in the habit of closing open tabs and just open new ones. As a concrete example, it often seems to run out of memory, causing issues such as Reddit not being able to load videos. They tried to fix this by more aggressively moving older tabs to an 'inactive' tab area, but it didn't work.
It at least feels badly written, saying that as an experienced developer myself. However, I know browsers are one of the hardest things to make, so perhaps it is just averagely written. But it is nowhere near Chrome's level of competence.
The new UI is awful too, I still hate a lot of design decisions and feel it was a bad mis-step. The old UI was just better. Again, I emphasise I use the browser daily and I say this with plenty of time to get used to it.
Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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Firefox on android can run ublock origin. The internet is unusable on mobile otherwise. But go on and let google continue to 'wow'you with their amazing ad tech. Firefox on android IS AMAZING.
No it's not. It's slow and buggy. You can also use an adblocking DNS like AdGuard and have adblocking system-wide. Yes I know uBlock blocks a bit better but DNS-blocking suffices. Also, there are other browsers with integrated adblockers based on Chromium.
It's not "a bit" better. uBlock can tell a difference between seeing an ad from network X and going to the website of network X. It can block ads hosted by the owner. It can allow you to click a tracking link from an email while still blocking ads on the target website. Finally you can unblock something as a one-off without disabling the system for the whole device/network. The quality difference is huge.
Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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There could just be a difference in hardware. I'm a Firefox user but there is a noticeable difference, just not one that matters much on a top tier soc
Loading JS heavy pages like Twitter on Firefox Android is way slower than Chromium based. Very noticeable on 2019 hardware, less so but still on 2022 hardware.
Ah, fair point. I'm on a pixel 6, so I have a privileged perspective that like 90% of smartphone browser users don't have because fairly new and fast SoC with a good amount of memory. I hadn't considered how much a difference that makes, because conceptually in my head "it's just webpages!" like we're still in the early 2000's
Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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I for one, have no patience for Feel Good culture.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Fell Good culture, is in fact, toxic positivity/Feel Good culture, or as I've recently taken to calling it, toxic positivity plus Feel Good culture.
Yeah, spot on.
Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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No it's not. It's slow and buggy. You can also use an adblocking DNS like AdGuard and have adblocking system-wide. Yes I know uBlock blocks a bit better but DNS-blocking suffices. Also, there are other browsers with integrated adblockers based on Chromium.
You've been downvoted but I would like to echo this comment. I use Firefox mobile daily, I occasionally have to switch to Chrome for some things. I choose to continue using Firefox Android because of the ability for greater privacy. Firefox android is slow and buggy. It is especially terrible if you are not in the habit of closing open tabs and just open new ones. As a concrete example, it often seems to run out of m…
> It is especially terrible if you are not in the habit of closing open tabs and just open new ones.
I just closed a bit over 2,000 tabs on my old phone because I was switching phones. I recall reading a couple of other comments here in HN and seeing a couple of comments in reddit of other people having thousands of tabs open.
Slow and buggy has NOT been my experience.
I use uBlock Origin addon though, maybe that's the difference? I bet resource-hogging ads could be an issue.
Edit: I also had "studies" turned off. Perhaps you were in a study that was testing something that caused those issues? (That's why I don't like default "studies" or A/B testing.). Or maybe something else (physical or software) on your phone is damaged/defective, perhaps even your installation of the Firefox app got borked?
Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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Wordpress handles 404s really slowly? I'm kind of surprised it works at all then, as at least in my logs there's a very steady stream of bots probing it for vulnerabilities by trying random URLs.
It may intentionally 404 slowly? One web service I worked on added a few hundred milliseconds delay in returning 404s to slow down this kind of probing attack
Ooh, that's a good idea actually. But it doesn't explain this:
> If I click enough, I’d eventually see HTTP 503 Service Unavailable.
That normally only happens when the reverse proxy has a timeout, which would normally only happen when the backend was completely overloaded.
Unless WP has an exponential delay, and the 503 is just the exponential delay becoming longer than the reverse proxy timeout? But why would the main page that the guy is loading say 503, when random non-critical parts like favicon.ico get a 503?
Unless the exponential delay is per IP address -- so all the misses to favicon.ico are actually slowing down the main connections past the reverse proxy timeout?
EDIT: Actually, no, they have graphs of the server actually spiking memory and CPU usage; you'd expect intentional exponential delay to reduce memory and CPU usage.
Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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Firefox on Android is NOT amazing. For MANY YEARS the user agent included the exact model of your phone. They seem to be incompetent. (Edit: this is a bit harsh, and to clarify, directed at the company and not any specific people in their employ.) Exactly what Google wants -- plausible deniability when it comes to monopoly, but an awful alternative.
Firefox on android can run ublock origin. The internet is unusable on mobile otherwise. But go on and let google continue to 'wow'you with their amazing ad tech. Firefox on android IS AMAZING.
There's Brave on Android fwiw.
Re: How to waste bandwidth, battery power, and annoy sysadmins
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Firefox on android can run ublock origin. The internet is unusable on mobile otherwise. But go on and let google continue to 'wow'you with their amazing ad tech. Firefox on android IS AMAZING.
No it's not. It's slow and buggy. You can also use an adblocking DNS like AdGuard and have adblocking system-wide. Yes I know uBlock blocks a bit better but DNS-blocking suffices. Also, there are other browsers with integrated adblockers based on Chromium.
ublock makes sites like imgur usable. it's trivial to add a nice rule that deletes all those login via social media buttons just as one example of what the hosts file can't do.