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Rails and Merb Merge

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Re: Rails and Merb Merge

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Impressive! How often do you hear about two open-source projects merging? Forking is much more common. I can't even recollect other instances of merging. Best of luck to the two teams with making it work!

KHTML and WebKit (though I'm not sure what the status of the "unforking" is): http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/07/23/the-unf...

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#32
post #4

Impressive! How often do you hear about two open-source projects merging? Forking is much more common. I can't even recollect other instances of merging. Best of luck to the two teams with making it work!

WebWork and Struts merged to become Struts 2...

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#33
post #9

Wow, I almost wish it were April Fools Day... For someone who loves Merb and had decided to leave Rails behind (as much as possible), I have very mixed feelings about this. If this means Rails will start to feel more like Merb, fantastic! Otherwise? I have a feeling it'll be a long while before I really know how to feel about this... It'll be interesting to see how well this merger actually works in practice. It seem…

It's open source... fork it. I'm sure someone will.

Well, there are already over 400 Rails forks on github. ;-)

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#34
I once heard someone suggest that the "Rails" architecture should just be a standard that could be implemented for any language. This seems to be a step in that direction. Sounds pretty good to me.

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#35
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's open source... fork it. I'm sure someone will.

Well, there are already over 400 Rails forks on github. ;-)

Yes, but someone needs to step up and build a community for it to be a viable fork.

There's a difference between someone forking Rails on GitHub so they can say "look at me, I maintain my own fork of Rails" (like 99% of those Rails "forks") and a legitimate open source project.

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#36
post #4

Impressive! How often do you hear about two open-source projects merging? Forking is much more common. I can't even recollect other instances of merging. Best of luck to the two teams with making it work!

gcc forked at one point, and was subsequently merged back into the main branch. Still, though, it's not an everyday thing.

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#37
post #4

Impressive! How often do you hear about two open-source projects merging? Forking is much more common. I can't even recollect other instances of merging. Best of luck to the two teams with making it work!

Can people stop coming up with examples? You're ruining mdemare's argument.

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#38
post #37
post #4

Impressive! How often do you hear about two open-source projects merging? Forking is much more common. I can't even recollect other instances of merging. Best of luck to the two teams with making it work!

Can people stop coming up with examples? You're ruining mdemare's argument.

Well, in the case of GCC/egcs and KHTML/WebKit, it's not quite a precise merge; egcs and WebKit won.

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#39
So, I posted this on one of the threads for other blog posts about this, but that tread doesn't have much going on, and I want to see what people have to say about it:

I'm a merbist and think this will be good for both the Merb and Rails communities.

That said, I'm a little afraid it will shaft the other Ruby frameworks (Sinatra, Camping) and possibly straight ruby too. People might make interesting things only compatible with Rails.

When Merb was a pretty big, active minority, it was more compelling to go out of one's way to make interesting libraries (ORMs, gems, etc.) easily compatible with anything ruby.

Now, people might at the least write things specifically setup for use w/ rails in such a way that it's inconvenient to nonrails ruby, and at worst make Rails plugins for things that could be useful libraries for all of Ruby.

Rails is gaining modularity, but I fear Ruby overall might lose it. Even after Rails and Merb merge, rails!=ruby.

Re: Rails and Merb Merge

#40
This is awesome.

Merb has become the 'go to' framework for Rails developers like myself who are unsatisfied with several Rails design choices.

However, the technical differences between the two are actually not that big. A merge of Merb and Rails concepts sounds like a good thing, all 'round.

Three cheers for open-source development and civil relationships between developers.

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