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Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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> it’s far higher for certain subgroups. ... and deskless workers I'm still happily doing a fully remote job, but I've noticed that a number of my friends have been forced to return back to the office 2 or 3 days a week. The irony is that many of their companies have scaled back office space due to decreased natural demand when people had the choice of full-time WFH, but now there isn't space for everyone to come bac…

> carry around a heavy laptop ... By car or by public transportation? Can you elaborate what the fancy pens and the heavy laptop are for? :o Seems like a very special job/position. Hot desking sucks ass, because spatial routine is very helpful for many people, and starting the day with this bullshit destroys routine.

He's a team leader in a company's internal finance department. He doesn't have anything specialised on his computer that he's mentioned, I'm guessing just Word, Excel and whatever he uses to connect to their finance back-office to extract the data he needs for his reports which I guess might even be web-based.

He drives by car, which is admittedly less inconvenient than travelling by public transport, but still requires a walk across a fairly large car park, potentially in the rain.

The heavy laptop is his company-issued laptop that he has to do his work on, and he longer has a desktop PC because (like everyone else in the office) he no longer has a permanent desk. From what I inferred from the conversation, it's heavy because it's old, not because it's anything special and when we're in the pub bitching about work, he frequently complains how slow it is. It's also not compatible for whatever reason with the docks they've put on the hot desks. Maybe he has an old laptop and they since standardised on a different type of laptop since implementing this policy. Maybe he was given a newer computer for some reason, although I got the impression he's had this since at least before COVID. Anyway, I didn't ask further, as I trust that's he's smart enough to have decided for himself that the provided docks don't work and that it's worth the hassle of unplugging everything from the dock at home and bringing the dock in, and then unplugging the work monitors from the work dock and plugging them into the dock he brought from home. If the dock on the desk just worked, I'm sure he'd use it.

I don't believe he has any fancy pens. He does, however, frequently need to make handwritten notes during meetings and so he brings in his pens and notebook to work and takes them home at the end of the day. Again, this is because he longer has a permanent desk, so nowhere else he could store stuff. I'm sure they have a stationary department he can get new pens and a notebook from, but he'd still have to take them home each day if he wanted to keep the notes, and I can't imagine he'd get away with asking for a new pen and pad every day. I also imagine that he wouldn't want to leave his pen behind and then when he's a different hot desk the next day, just pick up someone's half-chewed pen and work with that. I'm just speculating though, I only know for sure that he told me about having to take his laptop, dock and pen and paper into work each day. Maybe he just decided that it's easier to shove the pad and pen into his rucksack along with everything else each day and traipse over to wherever the stationary is kept every morning.

TBH I wasn't expecting there to be to follow-up questions, so rather than asking about the full specifications of his computer, the quality of the stationary and whether he preferred 2B or HB pencils, I just said "yeah man, that sucks".

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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This is the reason I think its crazy how some people claim that UBI would cause everyone to become lazy and do nothing Nobody likes doing nothing

I have never heard that being brought up in a (serious) conversation about UBI tbh. I've had quite a few discussions about this, the most common things people were happy about would be - Having a financial safety net and removing some degree of existential fear (note, this is in a country with an existing social safety net) - Switching into a career with less pay but better interest alignment. Interestingly, most of…

My comment was more about arguments being made against UBI rather than positives

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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I'm not saying you're wrong. But would you (or anyone) mind listing the ways that you think that the modern workplace is "actively hostile to creating meaningful interpersonal bonds"?

1. Telling people about their shortcomings will result in them retaliating, instead of improving or explaining why this isn't possible. So you just secretly hate them for being stupid instead of creating dialogue 2. The HR officially encourages people to escalate all and any issues, instead of having people deal with things between themselves. This makes me distrustful because people can be smiling towards me while g…

You're 100% correct. I have noticed though that in small startups (perhaps around 5 people) you have much less of these problems. Perhaps that's the reason for why they can be so incredibly productive.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Unless you have had a career as a janitor, it is extremely patronizing to tell the janitors of the world how fulfilling they should find their jobs.

Have you had a career as a janitor?

Am I telling janitors how "fulfilling" they should find their jobs?

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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post #198

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> carry around a heavy laptop ... By car or by public transportation? Can you elaborate what the fancy pens and the heavy laptop are for? :o Seems like a very special job/position. Hot desking sucks ass, because spatial routine is very helpful for many people, and starting the day with this bullshit destroys routine.

He's a team leader in a company's internal finance department. He doesn't have anything specialised on his computer that he's mentioned, I'm guessing just Word, Excel and whatever he uses to connect to their finance back-office to extract the data he needs for his reports which I guess might even be web-based. He drives by car, which is admittedly less inconvenient than travelling by public transport, but still requi…

Thanks for the details! Really! (I'm remote/WfH since ... 2018.)

> so nowhere else he could store stuff

That's just really fucking sad. I mean companies are so cheap they don't even provide a locker.

I remember packing and unpacking each day, and it sucks. And the commute stealing time is just unforgivable nowadays.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Have you had a career as a janitor?

Am I telling janitors how "fulfilling" they should find their jobs?

You're strongly implying that their jobs are not fulfilling, which it sounds like you have no more basis to claim than those you're responding to.
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