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Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

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Re: Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

#11

What is the significance of this

Huge and positive in the direction of lawmakers making law, not regulatory bodies that are unelected. Similarly in favor of trials by jury and not by regulatory administrative courts. A huge win for democracy and freedom that both major US parties and all citizens should celebrate.

So...bad.

I'm the person who prefers having regulatory bodies handle matters over a dysfunctional and ignorant congress who is political about everything.

Re: Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

#12

What is the significance of this

Corporations will run roughshod over regulators and everyday citizens' lives will be measurably worse as a consequence.

Not at all. They can still be sued, and lawmakers can still make laws.

(edited, originally mistakenly wrote "regulators" can still make laws, which is exactly the wrong thing)

Re: Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

#14
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This court continues to make decisions that might be defensible if you were making them for the first time, but go against decades of precedent in which time many laws have been written on the assumption that things would work a certain way. For a group that claims to be holding to tradition they sure are willing to throw things into chaos.

Sometimes bad precedents need to be overturned when decades of evidence have accumulated that it was a mistake, and this is one 100% of people should be happy about. There have been other poorly decided precedents in the past that were later overturned, for example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

Can you explain why that would be the case?

Re: Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

#15
post #3

This court continues to make decisions that might be defensible if you were making them for the first time, but go against decades of precedent in which time many laws have been written on the assumption that things would work a certain way. For a group that claims to be holding to tradition they sure are willing to throw things into chaos.

Sometimes bad precedents need to be overturned when decades of evidence have accumulated that it was a mistake, and this is one 100% of people should be happy about. There have been other poorly decided precedents in the past that were later overturned, for example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

> when decades of evidence have accumulated that it was a mistake

Would you care to share this evidence?

Re: Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

#16

What is the significance of this

FDA finds food factory to be non compliant with food safety standards.

FDA can't shut down the factory. It has to take it to court.

A Judge with a JD or a jury of random people will decide if the factory can stay open.

Factory stays open.

Millions of people eat salmonella contaminated food.

Re: Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

#17
post #3

This court continues to make decisions that might be defensible if you were making them for the first time, but go against decades of precedent in which time many laws have been written on the assumption that things would work a certain way. For a group that claims to be holding to tradition they sure are willing to throw things into chaos.

Sometimes bad precedents need to be overturned when decades of evidence have accumulated that it was a mistake, and this is one 100% of people should be happy about. There have been other poorly decided precedents in the past that were later overturned, for example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

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Re: Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

#19

What is the significance of this

FDA finds food factory to be non compliant with food safety standards. FDA can't shut down the factory. It has to take it to court. A Judge with a JD or a jury of random people will decide if the factory can stay open. Factory stays open. Millions of people eat salmonella contaminated food.

I'm guessing the next stage is to prevent people from being able to sue said factories?

Re: Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old "Chevron deference" doctrine

#20

What is the significance of this

Huge and positive in the direction of lawmakers making law, not regulatory bodies that are unelected. Similarly in favor of trials by jury and not by regulatory administrative courts. A huge win for democracy and freedom that both major US parties and all citizens should celebrate.

Nice in theory, but have you seen Congress…? They’re unable to even agree to pay their bills, much less legislate on this level.
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