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Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Re: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Post by lomase »

denkmoon wrote: post #67
bastawhiz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, so why should everyone else with an iOS device have to make the same choice?

Those with an iOS device can make the exact same choice - to get an Android device. If I don't want Apple to be my custodian, that's the choice I have. I don't understand why people feel the need to force Apple into a specific strategy when they are not a monopoly. They aren't the only game in town, you don't _need_ an iPhone. Every single person who has an iPhone has chosen to have that device. Perhaps the reason pe…

It is sad when even here people dont care about the right to run whatever code you want in the hardware you own.

Re: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Post by beretguy »

denkmoon wrote: post #57
amelius wrote: post #29

Can we have Separation of Powers on our digital platforms? It is pretty shitty that the one who sells phones also determines what goes on them.

I choose Apple to be the custodian of apps that go on my phone. There is a platform where the user is the one that determines what goes on their phone, it's called Android.

Your line of thinking has so much wrong with it that it would be a waste of time trying to argue with you because you cannot be helped.

Re: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Post by FrostKiwi »

heavyset_go wrote: post #10

It's not just Apple that pulls shenanigans like this. Try building a Python app with PyInstaller while you have Windows Defender live scanning on, which is the default setting. You won't even be able to compile a binary without Defender preventing you from doing so. Similarly, try running the binary produced by PyInstaller with Windows Defender on. Defender will say it's malicious and won't run it. It's a bit dystopi…

> that both major OS platforms go out of their way to prevent you from distributing and running your Python apps

This goes beyond just Python apps. The signing procedures to get past Windows SmartScreen require you to buy certificates and or deeply integrate with the golden path of Windows development. Stray from the Microsoft approved path that and all your users will get a nice scary warning. Part of it is justified by security concerns, but there is a bitter taste of major OSs pushing "the" way to develop.

Re: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Post by dnawlp »

edflsafoiewq wrote: post #44

I thought this was interesting > Alex Gaynor suggested that the project try a an approach that Keith-Magee had not put forward inspired by Gaynor's experience with the cryptography library. The project often receives complaints that the library refuses to parse a certificate that is technically invalid, but was in wide use. He said that the policy was to accept pull requests that work around those issues ""provided t…

Seems like the quote is a non-statement given that Apple's bug report system is a black hole. Big talk as usual from Pythonistas without any connection to reality.

Re: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Post by amelius »

denkmoon wrote: post #67
bastawhiz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, so why should everyone else with an iOS device have to make the same choice?

Those with an iOS device can make the exact same choice - to get an Android device. If I don't want Apple to be my custodian, that's the choice I have. I don't understand why people feel the need to force Apple into a specific strategy when they are not a monopoly. They aren't the only game in town, you don't _need_ an iPhone. Every single person who has an iPhone has chosen to have that device. Perhaps the reason pe…

> I don't understand why people feel the need to force Apple into a specific strategy when they are not a monopoly.

According to your argument, they __are__ a monopoly. I.e. one on digital serfdom. Because apparently Android is in a different field.

Re: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Post by [deleted] »

leptons wrote: post #72
denkmoon wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those with an iOS device can make the exact same choice - to get an Android device. If I don't want Apple to be my custodian, that's the choice I have. I don't understand why people feel the need to force Apple into a specific strategy when they are not a monopoly. They aren't the only game in town, you don't _need_ an iPhone. Every single person who has an iPhone has chosen to have that device. Perhaps the reason pe…

>Every single person who has an iPhone has chosen to have that device. I didn't want an iphone. I was forced to get one, because Apple won't allow any web browser on their platform except their web browser . So I can't deliver a working website for iphone users without having a real iphone to develop on. This is an absolutely abusive, anti-competitive and shitty artificial limitation Apple has forced on the world. I'…

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Re: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Post by lifthrasiir »

wodenokoto wrote: post #87

Why is the “ itms-services URL scheme” in base Python to begin with? Why does Python have code for interacting with iTunes out of the box?

Apparently it was another hack to prevent incorrect parsing of such URLs on the server side, without the actual interaction happening [1].

[1] https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/104139

Re: Python grapples with Apple App Store rejections

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Post by Slyfox33 »

denkmoon wrote: post #67
bastawhiz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, so why should everyone else with an iOS device have to make the same choice?

Those with an iOS device can make the exact same choice - to get an Android device. If I don't want Apple to be my custodian, that's the choice I have. I don't understand why people feel the need to force Apple into a specific strategy when they are not a monopoly. They aren't the only game in town, you don't _need_ an iPhone. Every single person who has an iPhone has chosen to have that device. Perhaps the reason pe…

Apple, the trillion dollar company, doesn't need you to defend their shit business practices for them.
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