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Language is primarily a tool for communication rather than thought [pdf]

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Re: Language is primarily a tool for communication rather than thought [pdf]

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Often times i can actively feel how laggy my brain is in wrapping the thoughts in language. Before i even have the words ready, my thinking is already way ahead at the next thought. Not sure if that's just ADHD. I like to think secretly it's because i am not too dumb and actually a quick thinker. On the other hand, my analytical thinking is not that good. While i enjoy the process of thinking about things alone for h…

> I sometimes feel like i am standing on the piazza, waiting for this beautiful thought to walk past me. Too scared to talk to it, because she would realize i am too dumb to understand her and a con-artist anyway... but then, every once in a while this beautiful thought turns around and takes over my brain. But maybe, i am truly just mad. I have a huge quote "Notes" from all the books i've read. This is the first tim…

Oh, well, if i had known this, i would have checked the typos and the grammar. Didn't even think people would comment on my weird ramblings. So: Sorry for bad english quote now in you mind forever!

But seriously, thank you for taking the initiative & time to comment & letting me know this. Weirdly, it means a lot to me. And actually touched me. Which sounds even weirder, but it's true. That someone liked & resonated with this, even when in such a bad form...

Anyway, I really appreciate it & you. I try to leave out no chance to say something positive or let people know they had a positive impact on me, even if it's just such a small thing. Probably because i wish people would let me know more often, as confirmation that all my efforts aren't for nothing. But your comment is actually the only confirmation of me leaving just the slightest trace... you've helped this lonely, broken soul. A lot.

Please keep this in the back of your minds eye as well, when carrying the words there.

Re: Language is primarily a tool for communication rather than thought [pdf]

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It absolutely melts my mind every time I come across the two facts that: - People experience their thoughts very differently - We all secretly believe that deep down, everyone experiences thought like we do. I've never really had a strong internal monologue when thinking, so my assumption would always be that of course, thinking isn't very linguistic (even if we can use it as a tool while thinking). It seems like the…

> I've never really had a strong internal monologue when thinking, so my assumption would always be that of course, thinking isn't very linguistic (even if we can use it as a tool while thinking).

I always had thought this is the case too. Thinking isn't linguistic but it can be helpful as a tool while thinking, especially while thinking about communication.

It also seems obvious to me that language is a tool for communication rather than thought, although sometimes it also includes communication to yourself (in future).

In some cases, I can visualize words as text too, especially if thinking about written communication.

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Re: Language is primarily a tool for communication rather than thought [pdf]

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There is a condition called aleythimia. People who have been emotionally neglected have not been mirrored and told what they're feeling "You look exhausted" "It's normal to feel guilty in that situation." "I understand that you feel so conflicted."

I talk with people in this circle, and in fact, giving a name to emotion, making it a concrete thing, instead of just this bodily feeling and cloud in the mind, gives it relief and allows it to be fully expressed and understood. It makes each emotion a separate entity in a sea of previously undefined emotions.

When we talk with people with alexythimia they often say they feel "pain" to describe some discomfort. And in fact they do. But when they realize they are actually feeling guilt, or confusion, or anxiety, which are all uncomfortable, not only you can see them feeling relief, as now it makes sense what they're feeling, but the emotion becomes a specific thing. Confusion becomes identifiable from stress, instead of just being called "Pain" and with this, it can be identified as two separate feelings and not just one. They see now that this feeling of not knowing what to do is a clear different thing than the other one where they feel there is an important event coming and they don't feel prepared for it, instead of both just being uncomfortable.

So imo, the word, "primarily" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

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