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well, in that case they should drive on 101 in the City. No pedestrians (normally) as you said. Of course, if you have an accident there, you piss off a whole lot more people than you would on a surface street.
>101 never been. Is that the one from the phantom planet song?
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Freeway driving is easier than surface streets. Maybe merging in is the hard part.
uh, in southern california there used to be an unspoken rule: if you can't pass the driver's test with freeway included, you go to NorCo and take the test there. No freeway - the hardest thing is the "parallel park and reverse" which is just being told prior "when you pull over, take as long as you need to get as parallel as you can to the curb, then just go in reverse, look over your shoulder, and don't touch the wh…
As to why freeway is easier: maybe not as a very new driver, but as soon as you're comfortable handling a car you can get on the freeway and the mental processing loop is much easier. Just follow the car ahead at a safe distance for the speed. Very little else, can be done with just half a brain while you think about other things.
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No, it's true. If you're too feeble to walk, you're probably too feeble to drive. Of course, people who are just paralyzed from the waist down are a different story.
> If you're too feeble to walk, you're probably too feeble to drive. Again: patent nonsense. Do you even know any old people?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40801594
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40794443
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In fact when I scroll back through your recent comments I find it hard to find any that don't break the site guidelines with some sort of aggressive or nasty edge.
We have to ban accounts that post like this. This is not what HN is for, and destroys what it is for. It has also, unfortunately, been a problem for years:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39412436 (Feb 2024)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29629441 (Dec 2021)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22274528 (Feb 2020)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16767103 (April 2018)
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I'm not going to ban your account right now because you've been here a long time, but if you want to keep posting here then we need you to properly fix this going forward. That means being respectful and curious, and it also means not being irritable, mean, or any of the other things that lead people into the flamewar style. So if you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
I highly recommend everyone try it out if you're in SF. It's an incredibly smooth and sure ride. The cars are really nice too (Jaguar I-Pace electric cars), clean and spacious. The first time you ride in one, it feels truly sci-fi. But within 5 minutes, you're almost bored of it - that's how good it is. If I had to choose between an Uber of questionable cleanliness and driver temperament and a Waymo with a slightly l…
I love how we've gone from "Taxis are gross and dirty, that's why I love Uber!" to "Ubers are gross and dirty, that's why I love Waymo!" in the span of 5 years. What do you think comes next? These cars are literally unsupervised.
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> Maybe if they re-invent trains or buses again You joke, but I've heard more than one argument about how self-driving cars will drastically improve traffic because, for inter-city travel, they will be able to drive very close together on the highway in a long convoy, leaving almost no space between cars...
I don't think it's such a bad idea, actually. There's value in having something that can drive in a "train", but that can also disconnect when needed and drive on its own. If you're driving long distance, you get the advantages of a train, but door-to-door, with no scheduling conflicts and no egregious stop times. If your destination is 5 minutes away, it's still a car.
...its frankly idiotic.
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Tesla is rather good at mass producing their own vehicles so they are not reliant on existing Tesla owners providing their vehicles for the fleet. If the rumor mill is to be believed, they will also be making a dedicated robotaxi vehicle with no steering wheel so there isn't a wasted empty driver seat. > Yes there can be cleaning fees and vetting, but all it takes is one or two people puking in your Tesla, and you'll…
> Plenty of Tesla owners (and owners of all sorts of other vehicles including high-end sports cars and luxury vehicles) already rent out their vehicles to strangers on Turo. Listing them on Tesla's platform instead won't be a large change. A lot of owners might actually prefer it if it allows more fine-grained options (eg. no rides past 9pm, no rides more than 50 miles from home) instead of renting it out for 24 hour…
The Tesla-owned fleet will likely have the same requirements as riding an Uber. If the rumors are to be believed, those will be dedicated robotaxi vehicles with no steering wheel.
Of course for peer-to-peer you will be able to set your own requirements based on what you're comfortable with, or even just not join the network at all so your car stays exclusively yours.
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> They can also do constant updates because the cars themselves are able to detect road changes, self update maps and rollout changes to the entire fleet. Which leads to mapping failures being unchecked, as the system that generated the data is the one checking the data by driving it. See bullet point 1 in their recent recall for an example. > Prior to the Waymo ADS receiving the remedy described in this report, a co…
> the Waymo ADS’s perception system assigned a low damage score to the object; and Tesla would do better how in this case? It also routinely crashes into stationary objects, presumably because the system assumes it wouldn't cause damage.
Are the Teslas in the room with you right now?
Please point out in my comment where I mentioned Tesla. I can wait.
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True! Presumably they'd refuel the vehicles in these places as well. The number of depots would depend on how much time you want to waste having vehicles driving out-of-direction and (1) the cost of additional real estate plus (2) the cost of employees at each location.
They're electric cars, so I assume they don't need to be juiced up in between rides.
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The above was referencing stopping on a city street ("Powell between Bush and Sutter"). You're talking about stopping on a highway. These things are not particularly comparable.
In the California Vehicle Code section 360, a "highway" is defined for the purposes of the vehicle code as "a way or place of whatever nature, publicly maintained and open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel. Highway includes street." [0] [0] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio... .
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In the next couple years Waymo will have accumulated more than 100M miles driven, which is the number a human drives statistically before causing 1 death on average. Are you still going to be worried when they drive 1B miles and have 2 deaths? What about 100B miles with 30 deaths? At what point will you accept the statistical evidence?
A new software release has driven zero miles. You do not know what kind of performance it has -- regressions both happen and are expected with every launch. The number of miles a release ends up driving is mostly in simulation + some human-supervised on-road testing, and may be low / influenced by the availability of resources ($$$). There are little to no regulations or 3rd party checks on the process used to clear…