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Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by vel0city »

xen2xen1 wrote: post #278
vel0city wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While not global, that was essentially what Hulu was originally for the US. A single streaming platform co-owned by many of the big networks. You could watch FOX, NBC, ABC, and other shows all on a single streaming platform. Notably absent at the time though were many of the big cable networks and movie studios.

Which got bought by Disney.

After the other companies largely let Hulu languish to focus on their own individual streaming platforms, yes.

Disney was one of the original partners of Hulu through their ownership of ABC.

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Post by jeffwask »

neckro23 wrote: post #272
lapcat wrote: post #243

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> Rust In Peace was completely rerecorded by studio musicians Are you talking about the 1990 Megadeth album? In 2004 it was remastered, as a lot of albums are, but it was not rerecorded by studio musicians.

GP is not quite correct. It wasn't completely re-recorded, but Dave Mustaine re-recorded many of the guitar solos on the album, and the whole album was remixed. At any rate, it's not the same (classic, imo) album that was released in 1990.

Same story with the original Star Wars films. Lucas remastered and changed the originals, and you can mostly only get the original versions on VHS.

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Post by dehrmann »

jeffwask wrote: post #282
neckro23 wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GP is not quite correct. It wasn't completely re-recorded, but Dave Mustaine re-recorded many of the guitar solos on the album, and the whole album was remixed. At any rate, it's not the same (classic, imo) album that was released in 1990.

Same story with the original Star Wars films. Lucas remastered and changed the originals, and you can mostly only get the original versions on VHS.

Playing devil's advocate, it's the artists' content. Don't they have the right to go back and make it more in line with their original vision?

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Post by dehrmann »

varunnrao wrote: post #104

What I find really interesting is that all these studios who ran TV channels for so many years fumbled the bag when it came to streaming.. It's like all these people who basically were in content distribution didn't really wise up to the next, new thing in their business even as it happened in front of their eyes. It's pretty wild that Paramount+/Disney+/Peacock or whatever really struggle to get going, especially gi…

It's more a failure of management. All the big, legacy players were co-owners of Hulu around 2010. The success of Netflix, and to a lesser extent HBO Max, give them envy, and they all went off on their own to build something. The problem was there were more streaming services than people wanted.

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Post by dehrmann »

soco wrote: post #207
RobertRies wrote: post #189

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This is compelling and I think many elements of the spirit of this are true. The only thing I would add is that it will be interesting to see if professional, medium/high budget, polished, "produced" content will remain a stable and significant niche that is distinct from user-generated content. And does the high-production-value content directly compete with low-production value user-created content? And what percen…

Yesterday was MTV News deleting their archive, right? But on your points: brace yourselves for AI-generated content, with increasing technical quality and probably also increasing entertainment quality. That will be The Flood and might wipe out the small human creators by their lack of discoverability, and replace the studios output because hey AI is cheaper than employing real humans. So what do we do then??? Also n…

> Yesterday was MTV News deleting their archive, right?

Guess who owns MTV and Comedy Central.

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Post by mattmaroon »

smcin wrote: post #271
mattmaroon wrote: post #260

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Verb tenses are not hard. I said all their content is going to be there, not that it is already. They are betting the company on people paying for paramount plus, it would make no sense for them to have free content anywhere else. They’re moving it all now.

> Verb tenses are not hard. Don't be obnoxious. Paramount Plus already culled content in 2023 per the link I gave, they have given no expectation they will make all their back catalog available. Likely they will make more of it available, but not all like you are predicting.

I don’t know, streaming services seem to love putting up the back catalogue. I think they’ll put up most of it.

But what’s important is they’re all in on Paramount Plus. They won’t have content outside of that, and why should they?

Obnoxious is ignoring verb tenses and responding to something someone didn’t say multiple times.

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Post by mindslight »

mkl wrote: post #166
adrianN wrote: post #141

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Most software you can buy is older than ten years. Do you want to lose copyright to every part of your product that has been stable? Imagine the useless churn as every company needs to make sure every library they use is substantially altered every couple of years to renew the copyright.

Public domain does not mean public. The source code could remain a trade secret. More of an obstacle is competition from free past versions - a lot of people would be happy with a 10 year old version of Photoshop or MS Office. That's why I think it should be extendable to 20 years with a hefty fee (but not further, or only with a much heftier fee).

If you do not publish source code, your binaries should be ineligible for copyright protection. There is very little creative work in the binaries themselves. Keeping your actual creative work hidden (especially from things like eventually being part of the public domain) but yet still expecting to receive the privilege of copyright is inequitable. Same thing with only publishing under digital restrictions management.

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Post by dehrmann »

IanKerr wrote: post #280

We're going to lose so much more cultural history to corporate greed in the next century. Preservation of music, media, games are all being attacked in the name of profits. Future generations will not be able to enjoy the vast wealth we're creating because folks would rather destroy it than make it available for distribution, even for a fee.

You're overestimating how much people will care. When was the last time you listened to Bing Crosby other than White Christmas?

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Post by robertlagrant »

bdavisx wrote: post #276
robertlagrant wrote: post #251

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The US has the most millionaires, and creates them the fastest[0]. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/10/22/the-co...

Should that be the goal of the economy?

I wasn't say it's the goal of the economy.

I was refuting this:

> The system is orchestrated to existing money-people making money simply for having it in the first place.

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Post by araes »

sytelus wrote: post #138
varunnrao wrote: post #104

What I find really interesting is that all these studios who ran TV channels for so many years fumbled the bag when it came to streaming.. It's like all these people who basically were in content distribution didn't really wise up to the next, new thing in their business even as it happened in front of their eyes. It's pretty wild that Paramount+/Disney+/Peacock or whatever really struggle to get going, especially gi…

These studios used to make ton of money because only a few are in town. Now, every teenager is his/her own studio and content pool is so vast that their revues must shrink. They have nowhere to run. I think their end state is to publish on YouTube/Netflix and continue living at fraction of revenue that they are used to. That's what they should prepare for and plan for. Their existence and importance was supported by…

I think their numbers are BS, just like Hollywood's numbers have always been BS. Remember when Lord of the Rings lost money for New Line somehow?

Paramount's supposedly got 71,000,000 subscribers. At ~$10/month, they're making something like $8,500,000,000 / yr in subscriber fees. You gotta be daft to lose money on that.

At like a $1,000,000 / episode (last numbers I heard, might be old) that's 8,500 episodes of television a year. Pretty sure they didn't make anywhere near that much content last year. Seems like mostly all they're doing is taking away content and then charging you for it again. Disney already plays this game pretty extensively.

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