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Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by robertlagrant »

whoknowsidont wrote: post #182
sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

> This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content Have you not seen the U.S.? It doesn't matter. The system is orchestrated to existing money-people making money simply for having it in the first place. Even "bankruptcy" doesn't mean anything anymore. Your interest or legitimate use cases do. not matter. At all. Ever. For entertainment or technology.

The US has the most millionaires, and creates them the fastest[0].

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/10/22/the-co...

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Post by piva00 »

w0z_ wrote: post #205
jahsome wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's even possible for a user to down-vote a direct reply to their own comment. I can't see the post you're complaining about; but based on the tone of the rest of your messages, maybe you were just off topic or rude-atop-the-soapbox and others flagged you?

[flagged]

If you believe so contact the HN mods, it's very frowned upon to use comments to accuse people of brigading.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by bdjsiqoocwk »

sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

Torrents.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by kristopolous »

adrianN wrote: post #141
cornholio wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It all boils down to excessive copyright durations. For something like software, even 10 years is excessive. The copyright terms are set by lobbyist and corporations in a political process where the public interest has no representation.

Most software you can buy is older than ten years. Do you want to lose copyright to every part of your product that has been stable? Imagine the useless churn as every company needs to make sure every library they use is substantially altered every couple of years to renew the copyright.

Yes. People will use the official version for support and updates, like with everything else.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by 4ggr0 »

wiseowise wrote: post #111
ralusek wrote: post #33

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Obviously...You use a service, which costs money to run/build/produce, and the way that service is paid for is by advertisement. Your decision that the advertisement is annoying or intrusive isn't what makes your circumvention of it piracy or not, it is your violation of the terms according to which you're being given access to the content. I find it interesting that I have yet to meet a single person advocating for…

> I find it interesting that I have yet to meet a single person advocating for ad blockers on YouTube who, upon being given the option to have an ad-free experience by paying for YouTube premium, choose to do so. That’s because service is a complete crap, pal. These days I’m staying solely for content released in 2015 and earlier. Why would I in the right mind support this ADHD driven, rage bait filled dump that exis…

if you think that nothing interesting or useful was posted on youtube in the last 9 years then i really wonder in what corners of the platform you're roaming around :D

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Post by piltdownman »

cornholio wrote: post #129
reaperman wrote: post #114

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StarCraft 2 is still competitive 14 years later. I’m not sure I’d personally have an issue with it becoming public domain but the game is still well-stewarded today. Even Brood War is still satisfactorily supported 26 years after its release. Though I think that’s definitely long enough to consider the option of public domain.

The question is if that stewardship would be ruined by making it free to play the offline, single player version. More generally, would Starcraft2 and similar titles still would have been made if Blizzard knew it only had 10 years to recoup the costs? The copyright lobby frames that question in a profoundly toxic way: are there any marginal profits that can still be milked for our IP portfolio ? Of course there are,…

Would Blizzard have made Starcraft 2 at all if they had predicted the paradigm-shift towards microtransactions and cosmetics, with the 'game' itself as a loss-leader? This basically forced their hand to make the game free-to-play 7 years into the initial release cycle.

Indeed, Blizzard developer Jason Hall previously revealed that a single cosmetic skin for your horse in WoW made more money than the entirety of sales from Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty.

The only reason that Starcraft2 is alive at all is the late-cycle introduction of a co-op mode, with microtransaction gated cosmetics, 'commanders', and commentator voicepacks. The online is all but dead, with almost no moderation and stewardship, and plagued by maphackers at all tiers. Even something as basic as the EU MMR brackets for tier ranking are completely broken for nearly a year.

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Post by piltdownman »

dgoldstein0 wrote: post #160
leni536 wrote: post #122

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Is it the same StarCraft2 as 10 years ago, or regularly updated?

I thought they stopped updating, but I see they are still shopping patches as recently as this March. Maybe they just stopped producing new content.

The patches are for the Ranked multiplayer - the balance patches are literally to nerf dominating pro-players who found meta-breaking strategies. They're not designed to serve their core userbase and end make the game less interesting and more frustrating for anyone other than the top 64 Worldwide bracket.

The recent resurge of interest and player activity based on a wildly unbalanced and broken but fun 'Broodwar Units in SC2' mod is testament to this [1].

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cqw7hv/sc1_vs_s...

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Post by piltdownman »

reaperman wrote: post #114
cornholio wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It all boils down to excessive copyright durations. For something like software, even 10 years is excessive. The copyright terms are set by lobbyist and corporations in a political process where the public interest has no representation.

StarCraft 2 is still competitive 14 years later. I’m not sure I’d personally have an issue with it becoming public domain but the game is still well-stewarded today. Even Brood War is still satisfactorily supported 26 years after its release. Though I think that’s definitely long enough to consider the option of public domain.

Brood War is still supported for 2 Reasons

#1 - It was LAN first, offline, distributed as Shareware. The forgiving netcode and leniency of distribution ended up with it as a standard install on any Internet Cafe on the planet in the early 00s. It also hit Korean culture at exactly the right moment for it to go so popular as to become a cultural touchpoint. There's a Malcolm Gladwell book in there somewhere - it literally became South Korea's unofficial national sport [1]

[1]https://www.wsj.com/video/starcraft-south-korea-unofficial-n...

#2 - It was subject to a high-profile remaster as part of Blizzard's "Classic Games division", who also did rushed and careless remasters of Diablo 3 and Warcraft 3. The post-release monetization here is quite telling, as it was basically all aimed at the Korean market - popular South Korean StarCraft casters and Children's TV hosts providing the available announcer packs, with the main cosmetic being a chibi-'cartoonised' version of the standard asset pack.

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Post by mattmaroon »

smcin wrote: post #118
mattmaroon wrote: post #30

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You’re missing that they want you to subscribe to Paramount Plus, so they’re going to have all of their content there, where you pay them. They mention it in the press release. Their company IS paramount plus now. It’s all going there.

No, "all their content" is not available on Paramount Plus, much of it isn't [0], at least the good old stuff: - for example, they only have two seasons of The Daily Show (S28, S29) https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/the-daily-show/ . Reportedly they don't have the Colbert Show at all(!) - here's a list of 21 Paramount Plus shows that were disappeared 6/2023: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/21-paramount-plus-shows-ju…

I used the future tense.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by mattmaroon »

smcin wrote: post #210
lukan wrote: post #82

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"You’re missing that they want you to subscribe to Paramount Plus, so they’re going to have all of their content there" Most of the comments here seem to have missed that, if true. I did not read the article, the headline implies otherwise, but that surely can be clickbait.

It's not true, the article itself said it wasn't true. I posted a partial list above of entire shows/seasons that cannot be viewed on Paramount Plus.

Verb tenses are not hard. I said all their content is going to be there, not that it is already.

They are betting the company on people paying for paramount plus, it would make no sense for them to have free content anywhere else. They’re moving it all now.

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