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Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by mcmcmc »

ncallaway wrote: post #77
jpk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm reminded of how trademarks work: If you don't bother to defend them, then you lose them. Maybe copyright should be the same way: If you're not distributing copies any longer, you lose the copyright protection.

I'm pretty open to doing something like this broadly, but I think this is especially important for software. Things like video games are much harder to archive than text. Keeping them running 70 years after the death of the author is already a herculean task. Doing that, when no copies are being distributed could make that entirely impossible. The current copyright system is going to rob the public domain of many of…

What makes you think you’re entitled to other people’s work?

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Post by dtech »

w0z_ wrote: post #149
sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

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I also haven't gone to a library recently to read the Iliad, that doesn't mean I'm ok with all copies being burned.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

leni536 wrote: post #122
reaperman wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

StarCraft 2 is still competitive 14 years later. I’m not sure I’d personally have an issue with it becoming public domain but the game is still well-stewarded today. Even Brood War is still satisfactorily supported 26 years after its release. Though I think that’s definitely long enough to consider the option of public domain.

Is it the same StarCraft2 as 10 years ago, or regularly updated?

If we allow the copyright for the whole work to be extended indefinitely through subsequent updates, that kind of defeats the original idea.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by dgoldstein0 »

theturtletalks wrote: post #103
beej71 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this is a great idea, it's generally illegal for IA to share that content. And it's looking increasingly unlikely IA will be in existence 90 years from now, so it's unclear there'd be a point in them simply archiving it. If copyright were 14 years, if give IA a lot more of a chance of still being around then. And apparently the videos are no longer available to download, so it's not an option, anyway. Barring s…

I think down below, they are saying the episodes aren't gone, just paywalled behind Paramount+ now.

Iiuc only some of them are now on Paramount Plus.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by karlgkk »

w0z_ wrote: post #149
sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

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That’s kind of the point though isn’t it? Why not just put this on Paramount+ or gate that through Paramount+?

They have tons of content, why not make it available? Because it’s difficult, and they don’t see the value prop, even even though there may be one.

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Post by SarahC_ »

It is clear now that paper archives are far superior to digital ones.

Digital archives don't degrade over time - but they are so easy to destroy. Unplug the disks, or hit "Erase", or take the site down - and history has been erased.

We'll know more about the 19th century than we ever will of the 21st century.

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Post by w0z_ »

dtech wrote: post #152
w0z_ wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I also haven't gone to a library recently to read the Iliad, that doesn't mean I'm ok with all copies being burned.

This is the same as Facebook/Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, etc. taking something down for "hate speech" or "community guidelines". OP reported my original comment the same way Paramount removed content. Bit of a double-standard. I advocate for torrent, to believe in a large corporation to up-hold content (like a comment on the internet, or a TV series) who is surprised it moved to a paid streaming service.

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Post by isomorphic »

Anotheroneagain wrote: post #108
ninjin wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those of us not reading widely enough and/or not being raised in the American literary tradition, the quote is from John Steinbeck's "The Grapes of Wrath" [1]. I have long been aware of the work, but reading this quote makes me regret not having read it yet. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grapes_of_Wrath

There was a (massive) excess of food during the depression, so that is likely made up.

That particular passage, perhaps; however one can certainly believe growers destroying an abundance to control prices. It certainly doesn't sound like the purported overabundance of food was evenly distributed:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/feb/02/johnsteinbeck....

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by TeMPOraL »

oefrha wrote: post #47
ajmurmann wrote: post #28

Could they just have uploaded these to YouTube and monetized there through ads? Might not go with their brand, but better than deleting!

You do realize YouTube is one of their main threats, and their main advantage over YouTube is higher quality? Giving treasure trove of quality content to YouTube in exchange for peanuts while shuttering their own, that would be a double whammy.

Higher quality of what? Content? YouTube doesn't make any, it just hosts it. Of UX? None of the big streaming services have anything remotely comparable in quality to YouTube's player, and given it is what it is, that's saying something.

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Post by dgoldstein0 »

leni536 wrote: post #122
reaperman wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

StarCraft 2 is still competitive 14 years later. I’m not sure I’d personally have an issue with it becoming public domain but the game is still well-stewarded today. Even Brood War is still satisfactorily supported 26 years after its release. Though I think that’s definitely long enough to consider the option of public domain.

Is it the same StarCraft2 as 10 years ago, or regularly updated?

I thought they stopped updating, but I see they are still shopping patches as recently as this March. Maybe they just stopped producing new content.
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