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Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by adrianN »

cornholio wrote: post #96
jpk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm reminded of how trademarks work: If you don't bother to defend them, then you lose them. Maybe copyright should be the same way: If you're not distributing copies any longer, you lose the copyright protection.

It all boils down to excessive copyright durations. For something like software, even 10 years is excessive. The copyright terms are set by lobbyist and corporations in a political process where the public interest has no representation.

Most software you can buy is older than ten years. Do you want to lose copyright to every part of your product that has been stable? Imagine the useless churn as every company needs to make sure every library they use is substantially altered every couple of years to renew the copyright.

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Post by sytelus »

nutrie wrote: post #119
jpk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm reminded of how trademarks work: If you don't bother to defend them, then you lose them. Maybe copyright should be the same way: If you're not distributing copies any longer, you lose the copyright protection.

Let’s say I make a painting and put it in the drawer, never to be seen again. Do I lose the copyright then and someone is permitted to come to my home and take it away? That’s just one example of possible implications. My point being, trademark is directly tied to the dynamics of the free market, while copyright only indirectly. And copyright is not forever.

I used to make this argument until I came to know of law (at least in USA) that if you don't use your house and someone else starts using your house then they can claim the legal ownership of your entire house in as little as 10 years! It was very shocking and complete antithesis of property rights in US that are so dearly held. When you think about this, in long run, it might sometimes make sense that future generation can use what previous generation has built.

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Post by gnicholas »

mlyle wrote: post #132
nutrie wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s say I make a painting and put it in the drawer, never to be seen again. Do I lose the copyright then and someone is permitted to come to my home and take it away? That’s just one example of possible implications. My point being, trademark is directly tied to the dynamics of the free market, while copyright only indirectly. And copyright is not forever.

> Let’s say I make a painting and put it in the drawer, never to be seen again. Then you own that physical painting. > Do I lose the copyright then Yes > and someone is permitted to come to my home and take it away? No, but if you gave your friend Bob a copy of the painting, he's allowed to copy that copy as much as he wants once you lose the copyright. The original copyright system-- you could only get the full term…

> No, but if you gave your friend Bob a copy of the painting, he's allowed to copy that copy as much as he wants once you lose the copyright.

Wouldn't this require Bob to outlive the artist by many, many years? My understanding was that copyright extends well past the death of the original creator.

EDIT: I'm curious why this is downvoted. Am I incorrect about the length of copyright being decades past the death of the creator? A quick google shows that it extends to 70 years past the life of the creator, [1] which means that it would be quite unlikely that an adult who receives artwork from the creator would live to see the time when it's not under copyright. That is, even if the artist died the next day, it would be 70 years before the copyright expires.

1: https://www.copyright.gov/history/copyright-exhibit/lifecycl...

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by w0z_ »

sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

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Post by gnicholas »

themoonisachees wrote: post #136
arrosenberg wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, because thats theft. Its more like if someone took a picture of it and reproduced it for sale. In that case you would likely lose a copyright claim in practice, even if you may have a valid claim in theory.

IIRC a part of copyright "activating" is publishing the content in the first place, so I don't think GP would have a good case to begin with, not that it matters.

Copyright does not require public publishing of the content — just "fixed in a tangible medium of expression". This would have been accomplished when the painting was created on paper.

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Post by hoten »

acuozzo wrote: post #76
ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #2

This is why you download the things you love. Hard drives are cheap.

A hard drive sitting on a shelf is a big question mark. Will it spin-up? Who knows?! So you deal with this by having a backup. Now you have 2x the cost. But, unfortunately, you could have two hard drives not spin up. You consider an additional backup, but at this point you're at 3x the cost, so you start to reconsider letting hard drives sit on shelves. Now you're in RAID country. RAID is not a backup, but by shiftin…

Good points, but the answer is simple. Torrent it.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by w0z_ »

sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

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Post by blitzar »

swagmoose wrote: post #22
mcmcmc wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From TFA: > The move would appear to be part of continued belt-tightening measures at Paramount, which is more than $14 billion in debt, led by losses at Paramount+ and its aging cable networks.

I knew it was bad, I didn't know it was $14 billion bad. Did they spend it all on their two terrible streaming apps?

Rates were low, the cost of servicing $14 billion in debt was $0.

CEO's had the company take the debt on, paid themselves fat bonuses and hoped that the little people downstairs would invent something new that would save the company.

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