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Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by Terr_ »

krackers wrote: post #15
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They use "TV Eyes" a service that records all cable channels constantly and allows you to search through them and download clips of that segment.

How have they not been sued into oblivion?

It seems there was a lawsuit that they won, then lost on appeal, and then the Supreme Court decided not to let it escalate further.

> This case stems from a copyright infringement case filed by Fox News back in 2013 against TVEyes [...]

> On December 3rd [2018], the U.S. Supreme Court denied a petition for writ of certiorari in TVEyes, Inc. v. Fox News Network, LLC, declining the opportunity to decide what would have been the Court’s first case on fair use in a copyright context in 20 years. [1]

[1] https://ipwatchdog.com/2018/12/31/scotus-declines-2d-cir-mar...

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by Daz1 »

Krasnol wrote: post #16
Daz1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You don't have something anymore if a thief gets it. Nothing gets lost here. There is even more of it afterward. So please...spare us that sad tactic.

Sorry but this pointless semantic argument has been thoroughly debunked. A tangible object is not required for it to be considered theft in anything other than very specific legal contexts. That's why we talk about musicians 'stealing' riffs or chord progressions. That's why artists accuse AI of 'stealing' their digital artwork. That's why comedians complain about other comedians 'stealing' their jokes.

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Post by Daz1 »

redundantly wrote: post #24
Daz1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Do you also think Adblock is piracy?

It's not 'piracy', but it is theft of a different nature in that you're indirectly reducing the revenue that would have been received by the content creator.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by zer00eyz »

ralusek wrote: post #33
redundantly wrote: post #24

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Do you also think Adblock is piracy?

Obviously...You use a service, which costs money to run/build/produce, and the way that service is paid for is by advertisement. Your decision that the advertisement is annoying or intrusive isn't what makes your circumvention of it piracy or not, it is your violation of the terms according to which you're being given access to the content. I find it interesting that I have yet to meet a single person advocating for…

>> and the way that service is paid for is by advertisement.

If by advertisement you mean the whole sale consumption and tracking of all your personal behaviors to aggregators that have arbitraged advertising for their profit and pushed everything in a race to the bottom...

Then yes.

Most people don't object to ads, and less to smart ones... we hate pop ups, the tracking, the scams, the bullshit. Advertising on line has done everything in its power to devalue its product as much as possible and operate an ineffective volume business. Its been doing this since the Netflix pop under and the sign up for 10 services to get a free iPod days.

> ad-free experience by paying for YouTube premium

How many paid for services now have ad's to? Sorry but no one is buying into this bullshit any more.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by oefrha »

ajmurmann wrote: post #28

Could they just have uploaded these to YouTube and monetized there through ads? Might not go with their brand, but better than deleting!

You do realize YouTube is one of their main threats, and their main advantage over YouTube is higher quality? Giving treasure trove of quality content to YouTube in exchange for peanuts while shuttering their own, that would be a double whammy.

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Post by RF_Savage »

krackers wrote: post #15
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They use "TV Eyes" a service that records all cable channels constantly and allows you to search through them and download clips of that segment.

How have they not been sued into oblivion?

They are part of the industry with better lawyers likely helps.

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by jwiz »

ralusek wrote: post #33
redundantly wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you also think Adblock is piracy?

Obviously...You use a service, which costs money to run/build/produce, and the way that service is paid for is by advertisement. Your decision that the advertisement is annoying or intrusive isn't what makes your circumvention of it piracy or not, it is your violation of the terms according to which you're being given access to the content. I find it interesting that I have yet to meet a single person advocating for…

Wouldn't that be a bunch of the people paying for YouTube premium?

Half the reason I pay for it is just because it is easier than trying to mess with ad blocking. (The other half is that it's nice to have download on every device in the native app).

Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by chefandy »

swagmoose wrote: post #22
mcmcmc wrote: post #5

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From TFA: > The move would appear to be part of continued belt-tightening measures at Paramount, which is more than $14 billion in debt, led by losses at Paramount+ and its aging cable networks.

I knew it was bad, I didn't know it was $14 billion bad. Did they spend it all on their two terrible streaming apps?

Yeah. Episodic streaming content has been incredible for the past few years, but now TV studio execs realized that indiscriminately pumping money into everything, all the time, inexplicably, isn't a good business move! So they've just started firing the big staffs they've picked up and cancelling projects. Because, when you realize you've been making irrational moves, the answer isn't trying to make rational moves– it's making equally irrational moves in the opposite direction.
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