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Re: South Korean telecom company attacks torrent users with malware

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Another memory from the terrible South Korean Internet is how the national banks required customers to log in using Internet Explorer because of mandatory ActiveX blobs of code.

It makes me sad that all of these started with US's restriction on the export of cryptography, which prompted South Korea (among others) to develop a domestic algorithm that was unsupported by contemporary browsers at that time.

The US export restriction applied to other countries as well. The question is what has made Korean internet uniquely bad.

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South Korea at least used to have blazingly fast internet infrastructure . Of course that didn't make up for shitty banking websites that you could only use by running Internet Explorer and allowing it to install "security plugins" that hook into Windows kernel, but at least the internet was fast, and it did give Korea an edge for its IT industry. That was, I think, about twenty years ago. I've been living in the US…

I remember visiting SK back in 2005-6, and the only way to get online was to install an IE plugin.

In early 2000s I used those Korean SIN number generators to access mmorpgs

I stopped when my cousin told me it was illegal

Have a lot of fond memories when there was a mini mmorpg bubble in korea

N-age still going strong it seems in 2024 ! So many rare unique korean mmorpg that will never see the light of the day!

Re: South Korean telecom company attacks torrent users with malware

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It makes me sad that all of these started with US's restriction on the export of cryptography, which prompted South Korea (among others) to develop a domestic algorithm that was unsupported by contemporary browsers at that time.

The US export restriction applied to other countries as well. The question is what has made Korean internet uniquely bad.

I think the answer itself is clear to me: SK bit the bullet much earlier than most other countries, having implemented a nationwide ADSL infrastructure by circa 2000. The same thing happened to Japan for example, where early mobile services were so successful that they essentially stagnated further development until SoftBank's introduction of iPhone.

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wouldnt competition naturally produce better products if there are 3 providers? from what i remember services from companies, or really any type of services were top notch in korea. due to culture, competition, etc. also noting pricing in general is very high in korea

There's no economic motivation to compete. The motivation is to raise prices slightly, wait for the other two companies to follow suit as a signal, then to raise prices again. If you raise and someone doesn't follow, backtrack to the previous level. This is assuming that they don't just have a meeting and set prices over drinks.

Right. There are two possible very different strategies - even illegal collusion. There is no reason to compete aggressively until one of the "several" chooses to break ranks and do so.

And if the one that breaks ranks is tiny, that might still not be enough reason for the others. Since there is a good chance they will just fail.

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This makes sense because the US does not have a set of laws that criminalize Computer Fraud and Abuse

Selective enforcement of broad-scoped laws via prosecutorial discretion is how real power works and how the status quo is maintained.

I like the idea that upon seeing a massive and indiscriminate MITM attack all of the various law enforcement agencies with a remit that includes data would just solemnly bow their heads and not attempt to stop or investigate it because a corporation probably wants the attack to happen.

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Unsurprisingly, terrible Korean internet strikes again. ISPs try to charge companies insane fees because customers want to connect to their servers. Company decides to use peer-ro-peer instead so the ISP starts installing spyware on customer computers. Makes me wonder where this myth of "good Korean internet" even came from if everything ends up so bandwidth constrained. Is it because all the customers and services a…

Another memory from the terrible South Korean Internet is how the national banks required customers to log in using Internet Explorer because of mandatory ActiveX blobs of code.

Can I get a link to a few of those sites? I want to see what happens when I visit using Firefox and tor browser.

Re: South Korean telecom company attacks torrent users with malware

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This makes sense because the US does not have a set of laws that criminalize Computer Fraud and Abuse

Kevin Mitnick would disagreed

May he rest in peace.

Re: South Korean telecom company attacks torrent users with malware

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South Korea information technology (as distinguished from hardware-related technology) is unbelievably bad. Much of it is purely technical: domestic firms like Naver are simply not as good as global incumbents like Google, but also they are terrible compared to other regional players (The Kakao chat app is vastly inferior to Zalo, a Vietnamese chat app). However, just as much is due to poor cultural and interpersonal decisions. This news case highlights such a cultural factor.

Note that KT, while relatively recently privatized, is still a national corporation that is considered a critical national asset under the law (thus if the North attacks, KT towers are first priority to be protected by the South's military). So, it is not as if some rogue SME infected its users with malware; it's a national corporation infecting its users over and not even be sorry about it (as in the article).

Plenty of other comments detail the strange Active X requirement: The national law had dependency on Internet Explorer/Active X. (I do not know of any developed nation having a national legal dependency on a specific corporation's consumer technology at this scale.) Also, many comments on South Korea's purportedly great infrastructure (albeit two decades ago). There is more to this.

Interestingly, if you ask an average Korean, he would say Korea is literally the best nation in IT/internet technology, topping or at least on par with the US. The national propaganda effort that went into forming this collective conscious should not be understated. Even many of the top programmers in South Korea I met strongly believe in this superiority. I wonder if this strong sense of superiority is both (1) preventing SK from improving its actually-lagging tech and (2) act in Dostoevskian-Raskolnikov manners thinking that it is above the law and consensus ("the best can break the rules and set new ones"). Whatever the underlying reason may be, there is a serious techno-cultural issue going on in the country.

One of the biggest banks in South Korea blacklisted Amazon as a financial scammer because it's Prime subscription renews monthly and customers complained after seeing the renewal charge on their credit cards. The ban was national -- no customer of this bank could buy a product from Amazon unless he calls the bank personally and ask the charge to be approved. Again, the issue wasn't technical. It was cultural.

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