Potentially silly question: how do you get these 3D scans without capturing yourself in the scan?
Show HN: The Tomb of Nefertari [QV 66] Guided Virtual Tour
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#12This is so interesting, congrats on launching it. Hard to describe this feature request, but would be cool to see a map of the tomb and where you "are" in it as you navigate through.
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#13It would be cool if I could double tap some hieroglyphics and get a translation.
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#14It would be cool if I could double tap some hieroglyphics and get a translation.
That's a great idea! I'm working on this in the pyramid of unas with an Egyptologist. Sometimes that granularity of information is still hard to track down.
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#15This is absolutely amazing! Did you get permission to do this or did you have to tip the guards there? I wish I saw something like this before going in. For those that don't know, guides aren't allowed into the tombs. So you kinda just wander around, don't understand anything (if you're me) and take some photos to try and ask the guide later what they mean. Depending on your guide, all their answers might be bullshit…
That always bugged me too! And just in general I wanted to understand more of what the wall paintings in the tourist path in the Valley of the Kings and Queens were. Having "scenes from religion" or this or that book is way too vague. It's a lot of research reading Netherworld texts and finding their corresponding scene on the tomb walls to write these tours.
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#16As a follow-up, I used the Polycam app and an iPhone 15 without tripod to capture the majority of imagery in the tour. You can see the iPhone Lidar capture as dollhouse matched with insta360 photos for the virtual tour. The museum photogrammetry was also completed with Polycam.
I aligned the 360 images with Metashape, exported the cameras.xml file with camera transforms/rotations, and converted these to my own json format with a simple 360 virtual tour viewer that I created w/Three.js.
For navigating between tour points, to try to approximate a similar motion affect as Matterport and Google Streetview, I somewhat unsuccessfully project the output of a cubecamera as a rendertexture on the dollhouse lidar of the tomb. I'm not happy with its current state but had to keep moving forward, and I appreciate much more the engineering that went into Matterport's Showcase frontend especially.
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#17Amazing, thanks for helping anyone in the world explore Nefertari's tomb. The rest of the site is also amazing! For Nefertari's, did you just use a camera and tripod to scanned the tomb you have a sort of 3d map of the tomb ? If so, what equipment did you use? In case it helps the author, it crashes in Safari et when at some point (random) during the visit (v. 17.2.1 on a M1 Pro MBPro). Works perfect on Brave
Thanks for letting me know, I'll work on performance and memory optimizations. I was developing on Brave.
I used an iPhone 15 and Insta360 one rs with the Leica lenses -- without tripod. I actually went through and edited the humans (including myself) out of every shot, but you can see where I missed some. I'm hoping to go back through and fix them. I put up other tours on the website just from 360 video, and they're much less edited, so I'm still hiding at the bottom of most of the shots until I can edit myself out.
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#18Potentially silly question: how do you get these 3D scans without capturing yourself in the scan?
It's challenging work! Especially in the tunnels at other sites.. But for this scan specifically, I didn't use a tripod, and I edited myself out at the bottom of every 360 photo.
For terrestrial lidar, you can avoid the laser and cameras by following a circular path opposite the device sensors or hide behind a rock or tunnel corner, etc.
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#19I'd love to see something like this appear in Apple Vision Pro. You could sell me a dedicated app that lets me inspect every inch of the tomb in 3D for a reasonable fee. In fact, how about an app that lets me buy experiences like this as In-App Purchases? There are lots of sites that could be "sold" as an experience and I think there's a decent market for doing so. You only have to capture each one once. Depending on the level of detail, I suppose I'd pay $20 or so to be able to immerse myself in such environments. Maybe more, but it'd have to be excellent, not half-assed.
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#20I'd love to see something like this appear in Apple Vision Pro. You could sell me a dedicated app that lets me inspect every inch of the tomb in 3D for a reasonable fee. In fact, how about an app that lets me buy experiences like this as In-App Purchases? There are lots of sites that could be "sold" as an experience and I think there's a decent market for doing so. You only have to capture each one once. Depending on…
Sounds great! I'll build this starting with 12 monuments that I've scanned in Egypt.