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Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco

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Post by bamboozled »

miki123211 wrote: post #500
x-complexity wrote: post #460

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> So do hotels, I guess that’s why no hotel room has ever been trashed. The point is when there's damage, it can be billed to the malicious actor in question.

Unlike Waymo, hotels can't really bar the bad actors from staying in any hotel ever again. At some point, the people who tent to leave a mess in Waymos just... won't be allowed to ride in Waymos any more.

At some point, the people who tent to leave a mess in Waymos just... won't be allowed to ride in Waymos any more.

Starting to sound a bit like a credit system or some other dystopian shit show. You do something dumb, drunk while in college and you're cut off...sounds amazing.

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Post by GardenLetter27 »

oblio wrote: post #496
taylorlapeyre wrote: post #3

Living here for the last 10 years, it's been jarring how just in the last few years, driverless taxis went from "it'll never happen" to "is this the default now?" The Waymos are genuinely good drivers. I look forward to taking them every time.

We do appreciate your sacrifice, here in the EU.

It's us in the EU who are having the sacrifice though. As we're left behind economically and technologically as a load of octogenarian bureaucrats decide to ban genetic engineering, AI, etc.

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Post by _flux »

rob74 wrote: post #506
standardUser wrote: post #503

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They have my credit card and they could ban me from their app. It's not like people constantly trash hotel rooms or rental cars.

99.9% of people also don't vandalize toilets, buses, trains and other public amenities, it's the 0.1% that do that's the problem...

None of those places have a good idea of your identity, though.

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Post by thrance »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #465
hackernoteng wrote: post #354

I dont get why anyone cheers shit like this. It just takes jobs away from more people. You will just get more homeless and drug addicted people. And more rich techies. And it will make no difference to the rider - they get where they need to be either way. It's just another bit wealth transfer from poor to rich. Yet this is cheered.

I agree, we should go back to have women and children working 14 hours a day at the loom spinning cloth, I can't believe we automated away those jobs

Your clothes are still mainly made by women and children, working 14 hours a day. They just don't live in the US anymore...

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Post by lawlessone »

AlbertCory wrote: post #400
lanstin wrote: post #395

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Based on my limited experience with Telsa model 3 FSD and my Toyota lane assist/radar cruise control, congested highways are the absolute sweet spot for self driving. Not much happening on the sides, and stop and go traffic being quite tedious for the human. It's happy to speed up and slow down over and over again.

well, in that case they should drive on 101 in the City. No pedestrians (normally) as you said. Of course, if you have an accident there, you piss off a whole lot more people than you would on a surface street.

>101

never been. Is that the one from the phantom planet song?

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Post by jillesvangurp »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #417
Schiendelman wrote: post #249

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The rate at which these systems are improving makes it almost useless to compare even six months ago.

Prove that. Because last time I checked in there wasn't a self-driving system in play that wouldn't faceplant into wet cement, blow through crosswalks, or find itself trapped in a cleverly deployed ring of salt. Additionally, by their own admission Waymo is nowhere near level 5 autonomy, which means they still haven't reached parity with what a mediocre human driver is capable of.

Well they just announced that they are doing tens of thousands of rides per week. That either works or it doesn't. And they seem pretty comfortable doing that. Also there's a distinct lack of horror stories involving Waymo cars. And I assume that they don't have thousands of mechanical turks wielding a joystick somewhere, which means these things are mostly working as advertised (i.e. autonomously) with the very occasional manual intervention.

So, what you are asserting and that cannot be true at the same time. So, my conclusion is that whatever you think you know here is probably wrong.

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Post by lawlessone »

mlboss wrote: post #205
ModernMech wrote: post #200

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I’d say the same, maybe. But yesterday I had an Uber with a guy that had a degree in history and a love for SF lore, and told me about the tomb of Starr King, and then I went on a quest to find it with my friend. Just saying that there’s magic out there that’s not technological.

Not so difficult to add this feature with the help of human like voice and LLM backend.

You'd replace your parent's with an LLM.

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Post by TremendousJudge »

fragmede wrote: post #382
0max wrote: post #282

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I've had a dude with a Tagalog accent take over the speakers in my car and asked me and the folks I was inside with to leave because I decided to clown car it with friends visiting from out of state. With that said, there for sure is someone monitoring, but it's similar to how checkout at Amazon Go stores went. I'd be curious to know how this monitoring scales over time.

We have computers that can drive a car in city traffic and you're worried that we can't have a computer look at the inside of a car and tell me if someone's left a mess? A non-ML model background subtraction algorithm from the 2000's could tell you that.

computers can't smell

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Post by dekhn »

kajecounterhack wrote: post #410
barbariangrunge wrote: post #333

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It does. It uses a specific band on the electro magnetic spectrum commonly supported by most receivers

SF traffic lights do not.

Of course they do. A specially trained human can even visualize those signals.

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Post by BtM909 »

gnicholas wrote: post #469
dgoldstein0 wrote: post #461

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They may have multiple depots in the larger area. Maybe spread further apart though

True! Presumably they'd refuel the vehicles in these places as well. The number of depots would depend on how much time you want to waste having vehicles driving out-of-direction and (1) the cost of additional real estate plus (2) the cost of employees at each location.

They're electric cars, so I assume they don't need to be juiced up in between rides.
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