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Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

23B1 wrote: post #6

- Good access to resources - Senior managerial support - Psychological safety with direct manager - Fair and equal opportunity for success These are all leadership solves. Not process solves, not spending solves. Leadership. It's ironic that consultancies like BCG – who are masters of technocratic administration, would post this! Innovation excellence is great. Technical excellence is great. You also need soft-skills…

"leadership solves"

Perhaps there is increasing number of psychopaths in leadership positions?

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

dfvnbggfg wrote: post #30
marginalia_nu wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big part of the problem is arguably alienation. A janitorial job can be rewarding because you can see that you are making a difference in the world. You get to meet the people whose lives are improved by what you do, every day. Filling out spreadsheets, it can be hard to tell what the purpose of what you are doing, whom it benefits, and how the world would be worse off if you simply didn't show up.

> You get to meet the people whose lives are improved by what you do, every day. dude have you ever been to high school?

Have you ever been to a high school that didn't have janitors?

Peoples' lives are improved by what janitors do, even in high school.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Post by lenerdenator »

GiorgioG wrote: post #12
bdcravens wrote: post #3

Most people don't have "fulfilling" jobs. They have a paycheck. A very small percentage of Americans, let alone those around the world, have the privilege of analyzing how their job makes them feel. I get paid great money to play with computers. My father was an elementary school janitor.

I think Office Space summed up the problem nicely: "Peter Gibbons: The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. Bob Porter: Don't... don't care? Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime; so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now. Bob…

But if they don't only care about the next quarter how is Gerald Q. Public, born 1958, going to retire to Florida after buying three McMansions (and selling them all at a loss), a sports car, and paying for three divorce settlements? Who are we to deny him the experience of moving down to Boca so he can get his maintenance-provided house on a golf course wiped off its slab by a hurricane before being rebuilt so that he can play golf and wife swap until the dementia sets in?

Workers, always thinking they make the value.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Post by thn-gap »

GiorgioG wrote: post #12
bdcravens wrote: post #3

Most people don't have "fulfilling" jobs. They have a paycheck. A very small percentage of Americans, let alone those around the world, have the privilege of analyzing how their job makes them feel. I get paid great money to play with computers. My father was an elementary school janitor.

I think Office Space summed up the problem nicely: "Peter Gibbons: The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. Bob Porter: Don't... don't care? Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime; so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now. Bob…

I watched Office Space for the first time when I was a teenager many years ago. It's funny how much my perception of the movie changed and how much it resonates with my work now, specially since the last years. One difference is that I have 10 different managers, which makes me dissociate enough from work without the need of any hypnotist.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Post by marginalia_nu »

sodality2 wrote: post #83
marginalia_nu wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the only purpose of your life truly is to pay bills, that would cause anyone to burn out.

Not the only purpose of your life. Just the only purpose of working.

With a full time job, you're spending most of your waking hours preparing to work, commuting to work, working, and commuting from work. There's not really much time and energy remaining to do something meaningful. Like it or not, your work is to a good approximation your life, the rest is a rounding error.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Post by Nathanba »

snapcaster wrote: post #41
ikety wrote: post #25

I used to be an employee that would kill themselves for even minimum wage. I think being a hard worker regardless of reward is an honorable trait, but keeping that up for decades is difficult. Naturally I am very loyal and agreeable. I like to solve raw engineering problems, but also social ones. I find a way to adapt to pretty much anything and anyone. This almost always ends with my employer exploiting me. Recently…

Why did you think being a hard worker regardless of reward is an honorable trait? I don't mean any disrespect but when i read sentences like that all that pops into my head is "sucker"

because the "regardless of reward" thing is supposed to be temporary until a decent human being above you realizes that you should be rewarded. If we all just did the absolute minimum then society and humanity would never get anywhere because you'd never know who a good worker is.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Post by marginalia_nu »

dfvnbggfg wrote: post #30
marginalia_nu wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big part of the problem is arguably alienation. A janitorial job can be rewarding because you can see that you are making a difference in the world. You get to meet the people whose lives are improved by what you do, every day. Filling out spreadsheets, it can be hard to tell what the purpose of what you are doing, whom it benefits, and how the world would be worse off if you simply didn't show up.

> You get to meet the people whose lives are improved by what you do, every day. dude have you ever been to high school?

I have been to high school, and I am very grateful for all the adults that put up with me, even though I was not at the time.

Re: Half of Workers Around the World Are Struggling with Burnout

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Post by [deleted] »

jordanb wrote: post #56
marginalia_nu wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big part of the problem is arguably alienation. A janitorial job can be rewarding because you can see that you are making a difference in the world. You get to meet the people whose lives are improved by what you do, every day. Filling out spreadsheets, it can be hard to tell what the purpose of what you are doing, whom it benefits, and how the world would be worse off if you simply didn't show up.

People think that the worst part of being a janitor is cleaning toilets. In reality the worst part of being a janitor is living in poverty. This is true about a lot of jobs in our economy.

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