Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
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Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
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Re: Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
#2They really need to work on exercise in a pill so that it can matter for public health purposes.
Re: Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
#3I think the positive effects for physical exercise in cognition and hypertension are fairly well known.
There are other factors like alcohol consumption and stress have high correlation on the downside as well.
I have a family history of alzheimer's and have hypertension so have a personal interest in looking after my mental health.
What I can recommend from personal experience is:
1) Regular exercise with a routine designed by a fitness trainer.
2) No alcohol, moderation is not an option
3) Manage your stress, some repetitive tasks I find useful, like household chores
Re: Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
#4I am no expert on the public health system and so I'm more than willing to be educated/corrected here, but I have the following impression:
There is more money to be made by stakeholders treating health problems than there is in preventing them. And so there is a lot more money and effort invested in developing pharmaceutical and treatment solutions than there is in preventing the problems they treat – even though that would be far, far better for society as a whole.
Alternatively/additionally, the stakeholders that make money treating things (insurance companies, hospitals, etc.) are simply larger and better capitalized than those that make money preventing health problems (gyms, health food stores, etc.) The biggest gym or fitness company in the world is probably minuscule in comparison to the average medical company.
The only wrinkle in my understanding here is that as far as I know, insurance rates are lower for healthy people, and thus doctors(?) are somewhat incentivized to have healthier patients.
Is there a market-based solution to this? And if so, what would it look like? Tax breaks for gyms? More lobbying from Big Gym?
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#5I think the positive effects for physical exercise in cognition and hypertension are fairly well known. There are other factors like alcohol consumption and stress have high correlation on the downside as well. I have a family history of alzheimer's and have hypertension so have a personal interest in looking after my mental health. What I can recommend from personal experience is: 1) Regular exercise with a routine…
In your experience why is alcohol moderation not enough; Is it that the effects of a little are still significant, or that it still lives room for abuse?
Re: Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
#6I am no expert on the public health system and so I'm more than willing to be educated/corrected here, but I have the following impression: There is more money to be made by stakeholders treating health problems than there is in preventing them. And so there is a lot more money and effort invested in developing pharmaceutical and treatment solutions than there is in preventing the problems they treat – even though th…
The barrier to exercise isn’t money in most cases. It is that exercise is misery.
Exercise sucks. I am overweight. I much prefer Ozempic (and pay a substantial premium for it) vs lifestyle change. So do millions of other Americans who are shelling out for it.
You would basically need to economically torture fat people to the point that exercise is less horrible than your incentives.
I’m paying 8K a year to avoid exercise.
Re: Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
#7I am no expert on the public health system and so I'm more than willing to be educated/corrected here, but I have the following impression: There is more money to be made by stakeholders treating health problems than there is in preventing them. And so there is a lot more money and effort invested in developing pharmaceutical and treatment solutions than there is in preventing the problems they treat – even though th…
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Re: Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
#8I am no expert on the public health system and so I'm more than willing to be educated/corrected here, but I have the following impression: There is more money to be made by stakeholders treating health problems than there is in preventing them. And so there is a lot more money and effort invested in developing pharmaceutical and treatment solutions than there is in preventing the problems they treat – even though th…
The barrier to exercise isn’t money in most cases. It is that exercise is misery. Exercise sucks. I am overweight. I much prefer Ozempic (and pay a substantial premium for it) vs lifestyle change. So do millions of other Americans who are shelling out for it. You would basically need to economically torture fat people to the point that exercise is less horrible than your incentives. I’m paying 8K a year to avoid exer…
It's a shame that exercise is linked to misery for so many people, because it doesn't have to be miserable. Hell, it's so so much easier to stick with it if it isn't miserable.
I always tell new runners to slow down, like ridiculously slow, laughably slow. If it feels like the lung is burning and you want to vomit, oh that is wayyyyy too fast. Keep it slow and steady and maybe only ever so slightly uncomfortable, then allow your body to adapt and ride that feeling until you're all of the sudden exercising much harder but without feeling like you do.
I posit that exercise does not have to feel terrible to work, and that it can be turned into something that feels maybe a little bit uncomfortable during, but really nice after.
Re: Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
#9I think the positive effects for physical exercise in cognition and hypertension are fairly well known. There are other factors like alcohol consumption and stress have high correlation on the downside as well. I have a family history of alzheimer's and have hypertension so have a personal interest in looking after my mental health. What I can recommend from personal experience is: 1) Regular exercise with a routine…
Jesus, you manage stress by doing chores?
Re: Vigorous Exercise, Cognitive Decline, and High Blood Pressure
#10I am no expert on the public health system and so I'm more than willing to be educated/corrected here, but I have the following impression: There is more money to be made by stakeholders treating health problems than there is in preventing them. And so there is a lot more money and effort invested in developing pharmaceutical and treatment solutions than there is in preventing the problems they treat – even though th…
The barrier to exercise isn’t money in most cases. It is that exercise is misery. Exercise sucks. I am overweight. I much prefer Ozempic (and pay a substantial premium for it) vs lifestyle change. So do millions of other Americans who are shelling out for it. You would basically need to economically torture fat people to the point that exercise is less horrible than your incentives. I’m paying 8K a year to avoid exer…
I think you probably just need to find a form of exercise that you enjoy. For me, I really don't like going to the gym, but I do enjoy biking.
That aside, exercise is just one aspect of prevention. In most places that have lower obesity rates, people probably exercise less than they do in America, which is ironic.
My broader point is more that the system is set up in such a way that it's easier for you to get overweight and then pay $8K a year to buy a treatment drug, than to just help you avoid getting overweight in the first place. Probably because the cost to do that is much less than $8K, so the stakeholders are much less incentivized to do it.