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It is indeed silly. And yet every taxi driver has plenty of horror stories, and that's with a human sitting there.
Taxis have basically no recourse if you just ditch. Waymo has a video of you, your full name, your billing address and your credit card on file.
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#392driving an uber costs about 20 cents per mile accounting for everything including gas, maintenance, replacement, insurance. including tips you are often paid around a dollar per mile. its just dead simple math. the idea that ubers lose money is a mass delusion fueled by outrage culture, echo chambers and the media. i made tons of money doing it. im screaming into the void and it wont change anyones mind
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That new group is people who aren't at the frontier of trying out new tech. The way this will manifest is the drunk idiot who'll puke all over the car. The bored asshole who carves his initials in the seat. The edgelord who gets their jollies out of destroying other people's stuff. Good chance you had some in the original group as well, but early adopters are usually mostly people who deeply understand tech. Once tha…
I don't know what 'deeply understanding tech' has to do with any of that. Plenty of people who 'deeply understand tech' get drunk and puke in places. Honestly, you sound like a Victorian-era petty lord looking down his nose at 'commoners'.
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#394i drove for uber around 7 years ago. it was the first time that i experienced first-hand a mass delusion. more on that later though. at the time i had just read the first samples of GTP output from openai and i immediately understood that we were probably going to experience an explosion of AI progress. and it weighed on me because i was afraid that the economic disruption caused by the resulting automation would rui…
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Freeway driving is easier than surface streets. Maybe merging in is the hard part.
You haven't driven on 101 in SF, I take it. 10 mph would be a great average speed, usually.
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> So smooth they apparently opt to blow red lights instead of stopping abruptly. Surprised traffic lights aren't updated to communicate with cars directly. Why not have traffic lights broadcast 'stop' message along with turning red? I suspect traffic lights, roads and cities will have to be updated to work with driverless cars.
It does. It uses a specific band on the electro magnetic spectrum commonly supported by most receivers
I've never heard of the lights transmitting their timing
This article from SFMTA erroneously states that the busses use "GPS to communicate with the traffic signal", lol, what is the actual band used ?
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#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
Freeway driving is easier than surface streets. Maybe merging in is the hard part.
uh, in southern california there used to be an unspoken rule: if you can't pass the driver's test with freeway included, you go to NorCo and take the test there. No freeway - the hardest thing is the "parallel park and reverse" which is just being told prior "when you pull over, take as long as you need to get as parallel as you can to the curb, then just go in reverse, look over your shoulder, and don't touch the wh…
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#398I highly recommend everyone try it out if you're in SF. It's an incredibly smooth and sure ride. The cars are really nice too (Jaguar I-Pace electric cars), clean and spacious. The first time you ride in one, it feels truly sci-fi. But within 5 minutes, you're almost bored of it - that's how good it is. If I had to choose between an Uber of questionable cleanliness and driver temperament and a Waymo with a slightly l…
I wonder if the cleanliness will be maintained over time? Presumably this requires humans to physically clean periodically, and it seems like this would suffer when the company starts to squeeze costs to improve margins.
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These cars are not meant to be owned. They're part of a fleet. They are driverless and specifically L4 autonomous, which is the best autonomy you can get right now. The vehicles that can operate without any help doesn't exist. You'll be waiting for a long time if that's your expectation.
No, what you explained is 100% what I expected. Driverless cars for Google. For me, I'll be waiting a loong time.
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You haven't driven on 101 in SF, I take it. 10 mph would be a great average speed, usually.
Based on my limited experience with Telsa model 3 FSD and my Toyota lane assist/radar cruise control, congested highways are the absolute sweet spot for self driving. Not much happening on the sides, and stop and go traffic being quite tedious for the human. It's happy to speed up and slow down over and over again.
Of course, if you have an accident there, you piss off a whole lot more people than you would on a surface street.