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Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

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I was under the impression that Azure only offered a platform-as-a-service, not infrastructure. Is that no longer the case? You can now run your own VMs and put whatever you want on it?

You can already drop a pre-configured Windows 2008 Server VM already before this news was out.

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

#52

For those curious to learn more, today (June 7th) at 1PM PDT there will be a live streaming with Scott Guthrie from Microsoft. http://www.meetwindowsazure.com/

Where in San Francisco is this streaming live from - can you attend in person?

I'm not sure. Someone posted an invitation here a few days ago, but it seems to be sold out.

http://register.meetwindowsazure.com/?invite=17ae2e27-2b9d-4...

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

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Why do I get the feeling that every article about MS is posted with the tone "Hey look guys, MS is doing something stoopid". The same tone seems to be missing when other tech companies are concerned.

I've thought a lot about this over the past few years. I believe there are a couple of cultural factors which contribute to it. On the large scale, Apple's "I'm a Mac. I'm a PC," made Microsoft bashing socially acceptable in the general culture. The second is more subtle, but more applicable to HN. Microsoft is not a Silicon Valley company and it never was. One source of animosity that this has created is that it has…

Microsoft also doesn't do much that is interesting. They tend to imitate and their imitations are seldom better, and are often worse, than the originals. The only moderately recent exception I can think of offhand is Kinect. Are there other innovations they've brought to market over recent years? Microsoft's research division does amazing things, of course, but I'm talking about products.

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would add a third point to that: we've watched MS use their size and position to stifle and destroy good companies. Now, when MS does something that could cause them problems, we react with glee.

People don't bear Apple animosity for what they have done to RIM, or Google for what they have done to Nokia for the same reasons nobody hated Sun for what they did to DEC.

http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Documents

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

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post #14

I was under the impression that Azure only offered a platform-as-a-service, not infrastructure. Is that no longer the case? You can now run your own VMs and put whatever you want on it?

Good point, when I was looking into Azure about 18 mths ago, you could have a Windows VM but the idea was that it was instantiated and port 80 was called and then it might get thrown away again afterwards. The same may be true for Linux instances, but its an important distinction between this service and AWS/Linode where you can have an instance running long term which has it's own state.

The addition of long-running linux instances is one of the big wins here.

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

#56

I was under the impression that Azure only offered a platform-as-a-service, not infrastructure. Is that no longer the case? You can now run your own VMs and put whatever you want on it?

I tried running Java (well, actually Scala) on it. Java is officially supported... the support is: Pack your JVM into a .zip, a .cmd script will call a .vbs script to unpack your JVM and then start it. I kept thinking that this must be a quick and dirty hack and there was a proper PaaS-like solution. Nope, that is the official support for the JVM. Pretty much the opposite of Heroku. To be fair, they probably offer pr…

You could always use AppFog on top of Azure. Then you get proper PaaS plus Azure IaaS....

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've thought a lot about this over the past few years. I believe there are a couple of cultural factors which contribute to it. On the large scale, Apple's "I'm a Mac. I'm a PC," made Microsoft bashing socially acceptable in the general culture. The second is more subtle, but more applicable to HN. Microsoft is not a Silicon Valley company and it never was. One source of animosity that this has created is that it has…

I disagree with the 2nd paragraph. Amazon is not a SV company but the are loved by SV. I think the problem goes waayy back to the original ideological differences of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. However one thing that might make SV loyalists tick is that the largest software company in the world is not in SV.

But there is no real Amazon competitor in SV -- at least not where they dominate -- merging product/delivery with web services.

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

#58

For those curious to learn more, today (June 7th) at 1PM PDT there will be a live streaming with Scott Guthrie from Microsoft. http://www.meetwindowsazure.com/

Is... Is that a picture of a Mac? ( http://www.meetwindowsazure.com/img/home/hero.png )

When Scott Guthrie spoke at Node Summit he was presenting off a Macbook Air....

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows Azure is a collection of services managed by Microsoft that, together with software development tools and SDKs (for popular languages such as C#, Java, Ruby, Python, Node.js, or over plain REST), comprise a computing platform. It includes services for on-demand computing, storage (in No-SQL form and Blob form), message queueing, service bus, secure connection, identity management, horizontably-scalable relati…

so it's like App Engine has a bigger brother :) I hate Google App Engine, I hope Azure is better

Care to explain why you hate App Engine so much?

Re: Microsoft offering Linux virtual machines on Azure

#60

I was under the impression that Azure only offered a platform-as-a-service, not infrastructure. Is that no longer the case? You can now run your own VMs and put whatever you want on it?

I'm really hoping they break out of that model. It's great if you want to run single apps on an instance but it falls down once you look at running a series of clients on the same instance. You need to do some hacking to get the IIS setup for many sites which is how we operate. Our current proposed structure would be to use AWS for front end and Azure for the DB which isn't ideal but I find AWS far more flexible for…

Isn't it going to affect performance to have your server talking to your DB over the internet (as opposed to a local network which I presume is the case when running EC2 instances in the same availability zone)?
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