They don't just bundle it, they make it auto-start on screen on Windows machines whether you've got an account or not.
In Windows you can use the task manager to configure what programs are started with your computer.
Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
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Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#52EU keeps on delivering today!
Defaults and bundling are inherently unfair.
Chrome shouldn't be bundled with Android. Google search shouldn't be the default. Google Wallet / Google Pay shouldn't be the default.
Same for Apple and Microsoft.
Apple Cash shouldn't be the default in Messages, ... the list goes on and on.
Platform providers can easily attack businesses outside of their core business by setting defaults. They use these synergies to wield unfair power over hundreds of markets.
Don't even get me started on how you now have to pay to protect your brand name in search across these platforms. The fact that you might appear fourth in search for your own brand name in the App Store or on Google is absurd.
Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
No do you have real problems with blurry laws in your country? (If so is this country in the EU?)
This is a really strange way to attempt to silence my opinion. Yes I do have issues with blurry laws. My current country is not in the EU, though until recently I was a resident of an EU country also with blurry laws. Am I allowed to have an opinion now?
> This is a really strange way to attempt to silence my opinion.
It's that your replies in this thread show a complete lack of understanding and a refusal to take in multiple people patiently explaining to you.
Apart from your bizarre posture that calling out your low quality posting constitutes "silencing" you.
Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#54I hate on Microsoft every chance I get, but how is this situation different than Google bundling Meet on Android? Should Google be worried?
Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#55They don't just bundle it, they make it auto-start on screen on Windows machines whether you've got an account or not.
In Windows you can use the task manager to configure what programs are started with your computer.
What that has to do with the OS vendor adding programs there that the users did not?
Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#56You'd expect them to have learnt the lesson with Internet Explorer but, as someone said, there is no way a man will understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it!
The Internet Explorer lawsuit was also 20 years ago
And other companies have gotten away with bundling a lot of stuff since then. I could see why they think maybe the same ruling wouldn't happen today.
Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#57They don't just bundle it, they make it auto-start on screen on Windows machines whether you've got an account or not.
In Windows you can use the task manager to configure what programs are started with your computer.
Not a lot of people know and change that. The point is that they should not have autostarted without consent.
Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#58You'd expect them to have learnt the lesson with Internet Explorer but, as someone said, there is no way a man will understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it!
The Internet Explorer lawsuit was also 20 years ago
You sure? From the article:
> In 2009 Microsoft was also forced to implement a browser ballot box in its Windows operating system to ensure users were presented with a choice of web browsers, after years of Microsoft bunding Internet Explorer with Windows. Microsoft was then fined $730 million in 2013 for failing to include the browser ballot in Windows 7 SP1.
That is 15 years at most, and 11 years for the most recent incident.
Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#59I hate on Microsoft every chance I get, but how is this situation different than Google bundling Meet on Android? Should Google be worried?
I don't think Meet is bundled with Android by Google, it's not there if you use LineageOS. It's probably an individual choice by phone makers (although maybe not a completely free choice).
I do agree it shouldn't be bundled of course. But even Chrome isn't bundled for example, so I don't think Google is actually pushing many apps.
Re: Microsoft breached antitrust rules by bundling Teams and Office, EU says
#60You'd expect them to have learnt the lesson with Internet Explorer but, as someone said, there is no way a man will understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it!
What lesson though? A slap on the wrist?