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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by DaoVeles »

slavik81 wrote: post #75

Tech companies in general seem to struggle with consent. Even when they bother to ask, they often refuse to take "no" for an answer, only offering "maybe later."

I find it just weird that 1. They think that this should be a default option that people would want. 2. They assume everyone just has unlimited data to use.

My parents laptop is on a very limited mobile connection in which they do all their photography stuff on. This move would just chew through a years worth of their internet data in one swift move. Just an outright idiotic move.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by vunderba »

chx wrote: post #173
jchw wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's hard to convey without coming off as unhinged Man. I have felt this way a whole lot lately. I think some people see Linux users and genuinely can't fathom how or why they'd want to go through all of the trouble choosing to use Linux and doing real work on it. A lot of us look back just as puzzled, because when I switched to a Linux desktop for the first time in around 2004, it was definitely a choice, but it h…

Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

It's somewhat of a grey area but if you can get your hands on the IoT version of Windows 10 LTSC - the supported lifecycle end date is all the way until 2032.

I have a dual-boot mid-tower running EndeavourOS (Arch Linux flavor) and the non-IoT version of Win 10 LTSC (support ends in 2027) with strict group policies around disabling of telemetry that's been humming along for several years now.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by yard2010 »

suby wrote: post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

Hahaha I love reading this because this is basically me. You try to do you. But Windows has other plans. When you get down to the bottom of it, although you don't even have time for that, it's always the same experience. You feel like someone shat upon your head intentionally. To the point I just became indifferent to all of this. I don't expect any good from it anyway and just click yes to all everytime. If it decide it should backup my computer without asking me - so be it. It is what it is.

Remember the thread from the other day in which someone asked how many video encoders Facebook should release before we forgive them for all the crap throughout the years?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by cyanydeez »

Definely part of tge Copilot iniative. Remember when openai and dropbox had to clarify that you had to agree to let openai scan your box for integration?

This is basically the same. They want your files to start doing copilot in the cloud for you'

It doesnt work to keep your data even if you acceptbthe premise that they wont keep yourbdata.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by donmcronald »

suby wrote: post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

Wait until step 2, which I experienced recently:

> You're low on disk space. Storage Sense is freeing up space on your PC to help it run its best. Synced files that haven't been used recently will become cloud-only.

All of my family and friends get tricked by tactics like this. None of my family wants to use OneDrive or the cloud storage from Google / Apple for photos, etc., but their data always ends up synced to these nasty services.

How is it not considered predatory? Fine them a gazillion dollars and make the CEOs smash rocks with a children's hammer for the rest of their lives.

Edit: And how is that a "backup"? They're moving my files to their servers eventually. That's not a backup. That's theft.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by cyanydeez »

amluto wrote: post #179
suby wrote: post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

Maybe write to the FTC? This is a privacy violation. It’s also arguably anticompetitive— they’re auto-enrolling you in an MS product you didn’t want to use, and this comes at the expense of either just local use or of any competing system. IMO this is also something that the US should shut down hard for a very different reason: every time anyone complains about a vendor, usually Chinese, misusing American data, the U…

Its probably worse. Theyre doing tbis to get people using copilot.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by gear54rus »

II2II wrote: post #190
gear54rus wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess mine just came pre-installed without that. But my point still stands, just don't interact with the crap and you're still somewhat safer.

Sure, but the typical person is not going to have a clue how to avoid interacting with the nonsense. At this point, there are two ways around it: do the installation as intended, then create a second local only account; or sift through the heaps of outdated advice online to bypass the registration requirement.

I thought the 'typical person' train has sailed a hundred years ago. You either take time to learn the fundamentals (in this instance, the fact that m$, crapple, etc. are all enemies) or you get exploited.

Notice that linux is not safe from that trend as well: you have to learn tech stuff to operate it in any capacity.

So there's no free lunch in this world, that much is obvious. I don't see where 'typical person' can reasonably survive intact in this tech climate so I also see no reason to bring them up.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by chx »

vunderba wrote: post #202
chx wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

It's somewhat of a grey area but if you can get your hands on the IoT version of Windows 10 LTSC - the supported lifecycle end date is all the way until 2032. I have a dual-boot mid-tower running EndeavourOS (Arch Linux flavor) and the non-IoT version of Win 10 LTSC (support ends in 2027) with strict group policies around disabling of telemetry that's been humming along for several years now. https://learn.microsoft.…

Disabling telemetry is easy with O&O shutup, I have been using that.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by [deleted] »

chx wrote: post #173
jchw wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's hard to convey without coming off as unhinged Man. I have felt this way a whole lot lately. I think some people see Linux users and genuinely can't fathom how or why they'd want to go through all of the trouble choosing to use Linux and doing real work on it. A lot of us look back just as puzzled, because when I switched to a Linux desktop for the first time in around 2004, it was definitely a choice, but it h…

Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

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