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Re: 6.5 Million LinkedIn Password Hashes Leaked

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You're sending the hash, not the password. DDG supports SSL: https://www.duckduckgo.com/ If you want coverage, generate a few hundred thousand SHA1 hashes along with your password. Actually, running a trickle query of random SHA1 hashes from your box might be a fun exercise, along with a trickle query of random word tuples (bonus points for using Markov chains to generate statistically probable tuples).

If you search for 'sha1 foo', that's being sent across the network to DDG's servers. And sure, if you're using SSL then it's not going across in plain text, but it's decrypted and handled on their servers in plain text; it'll probably even end up in logs and/or tracking databases somewhere. You're giving DDG your password.

A hash is not a password.

At worst you're giving the attacker a hash target to try brunting. He still has to brute it, and that takes time. Select your plaintext from a large enough keyspace and it's astronomical time.

I'll need to review their policy more closely, but DDG claim fairly minimal tracking. At best someone might be able to correlate hash lookup with some IP space. That's a long way from handing over passwords. And as I already indicated, you could cradled the queries to make the search space much larger.

Re: 6.5 Million LinkedIn Password Hashes Leaked

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If you search for 'sha1 foo', that's being sent across the network to DDG's servers. And sure, if you're using SSL then it's not going across in plain text, but it's decrypted and handled on their servers in plain text; it'll probably even end up in logs and/or tracking databases somewhere. You're giving DDG your password.

A hash is not a password. At worst you're giving the attacker a hash target to try brunting. He still has to brute it, and that takes time. Select your plaintext from a large enough keyspace and it's astronomical time. I'll need to review their policy more closely, but DDG claim fairly minimal tracking. At best someone might be able to correlate hash lookup with some IP space. That's a long way from handing over pass…

No, no, no. You're 100% completely misunderstanding this.

When you search for 'sha1 foo', that query ("sha1 foo") goes up to the server. They know your password is "foo" and that you're attempting to "sha1" it. They don't have a hash, they take that data and perform the hash, then send that down to you.

Re: 6.5 Million LinkedIn Password Hashes Leaked

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My complex unique password is also on this list (full hash no 5 0's). So nope, not a hoax. Unbelievable/insulting they didn't even bother to salt.

I couldn't find my password on the list and I've been using the same password for LinkedIn since I registered. I was trying to remember when was that. If someone know how to find out the last time you changed your pass or when you registered for linkedIn please let me know. I'd guess I use linkedIn for over 4 years at least.

A "member since" date is available on the "Account & Settings" page. Choose "settings" in the drop down that appears when you hover over your (account) name in the upper right corner of any LinkedIn page.

Re: 6.5 Million LinkedIn Password Hashes Leaked

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fwiw, this could also be an elaborate hoax, given this facts. E.g. a list of simple password + combinations of the above simple password+"linkedin" variations.

I have a very unique strong password on LinkedIn, and it is on the list. Given that, this is no hoax.

Same here. Sucks too, because I liked that password.

Re: 6.5 Million LinkedIn Password Hashes Leaked

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Whatever manager it was that tasked some junior programmer (particularly one that didn't know that unsalted SHA1 is a terrible idea) with implementing the password system at LinkedIn needs to be fired. Making the programming mistake means that you don't know much about web security, and while not a great thing, that's forgivable; putting someone that's utterly unqualified for code with security implications on such an important task is not. Nor is letting the code get deployed without having someone that knows what to look for review it. Nor is letting such a bad decision remain live for...what is it now, almost 10 years?

But let's not stop there. There are probably a dozen other people at the company whose job it is to avoid blunders like this, all the way up to the top technical staff. After all, LinkedIn is not, and has not been for some time now, some tiny underfunded startup. It's a goddamn public company, and even before that it was a super-team Silicon Valley darling that was getting money thrown at it since even before tech became cool to invest in again, and it's been valued at over a billion dollars for almost five years now. There is absolutely no excuse for this, they should have been doing regular security audits for years, and no audit worth its salt would miss something this simple. I absolutely refuse to believe that this problem was unknown, that nobody ever commented or filed a bug report about this code - no, this was deprioritized, because it wasn't considered a high enough value problem. And now it's bitten them in the ass and become a problem, probably because some other security vulnerability was similarly deprioritized instead of fixed.

I expect this from some shady Bitcoin market that a high school kid runs off of a server in his bedroom. I do not expect this type of amateurism from a 10 billion dollar company with hundreds of engineers, many of whom have specifically looked over that code, some of whom have probably complained about it, and all of whom should know better than to let it fester...

Re: 6.5 Million LinkedIn Password Hashes Leaked

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My complex unique password is also on this list (full hash no 5 0's). So nope, not a hoax. Unbelievable/insulting they didn't even bother to salt.

Yeah, even I, a newbie Rails programmer, going through the Agile Rails book learned how to salt. It isn't rocket science.

It shouldn't just be a salt. It should be bcrypt.

Re: 6.5 Million LinkedIn Password Hashes Leaked

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kill -9 -1 is better than kill -9 $$

How so?

That post was a troll. -1 is a special PID: It indicates that all processes that you can kill should be.

Kill -9 -1 as root is a surefire way to make a system stop doing anything, fast.

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