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Why is it so hard for companies to just do the right thing? Like it isn't a lack of resources for Apple, it isn't a lack of education or safety awareness. It's wilfull disregarding of the health of innocent strangers. People need to go to jail for this.
There is a disappointing amount of character slander rather than refutation of the author's claims happening on this thread. The foremost trustworthy party is the EPA. Note, I am not a lawyer or anyone who could professionally give an opinion on this.* The most egregious violation the author purports Apple did is the illegal venting of hazardous chemicals. IMHO, the most plausible evidence supporting the author's cla…
Thanks for taking the time to read the actual reports. The Mastodon thread is editorialized and manipulated to an extreme and it’s clear that the author is pushing an agenda. I wish we had some better news coverage and analysis, rather than a social media post to link to. This author wastes no time mixing her imagined claims with the EPA report, such as insinuating that Apple was doing worse things but hid them befor…
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Issues surrounding the author's personality aside (that have been raised enough in other threads, and quite a few of them in a tone I'd say borders on unethical): in Germany, we have strict zoning rules for heavy industry - some particularly bad polluters have up to 1500m of required distance to residential use [1], even if the area they're planning on operating in is already zoned industrial. Wonder how Apple got ap…
Which is not to say that the rules are unreasonable, mind you.
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There is a disappointing amount of character slander rather than refutation of the author's claims happening on this thread. The foremost trustworthy party is the EPA. Note, I am not a lawyer or anyone who could professionally give an opinion on this.* The most egregious violation the author purports Apple did is the illegal venting of hazardous chemicals. IMHO, the most plausible evidence supporting the author's cla…
Thanks for taking the time to read the actual reports. The Mastodon thread is editorialized and manipulated to an extreme and it’s clear that the author is pushing an agenda. I wish we had some better news coverage and analysis, rather than a social media post to link to. This author wastes no time mixing her imagined claims with the EPA report, such as insinuating that Apple was doing worse things but hid them befor…
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This is an EPA report, presumably they do not base their findings upon any beef a whistleblower may have. And, not knowing more about the story as you seem to, she claims her beef is based on the fact that she got sick from gases Apple was venting from this same facility. At least from what I saw on Twitter, this EPA report, in some sense, is the beef.
I agree that the EPA's report is based on first hand observations; OTOH I would not characterize the findings quite the same way she did. There certainly were a significant number of violations, but I don't have the context of knowing how many such violations are found in other facilities of comparable size (e.g. placing a waste container on a stack without immediately labeling it, or not having all labels in a stack be readable without rearranging containers). The regulations certainly seem sensible, but I wonder whether there are really any facilities of a certain size that manage to run without any violations whatsoever.
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Thanks for taking the time to read the actual reports. The Mastodon thread is editorialized and manipulated to an extreme and it’s clear that the author is pushing an agenda. I wish we had some better news coverage and analysis, rather than a social media post to link to. This author wastes no time mixing her imagined claims with the EPA report, such as insinuating that Apple was doing worse things but hid them befor…
The agenda of making companies operate in a safe and sane way? Sign me up!
A GP scenario doesn't mean there's no blame either, but it's markedly different than the Dark Waters scenario described in the Mastodon thread, the latter which does read like it's using all the incendiary social media tropes.
Which one it is in reality I don't know and certainly won't claim I do.
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I think not because all the concentrations were pretty low. The problem that Ashley faced was that she was exposed 24/7. But to me it looks like almost all of the gas concentrations would have been considered an A-OK working environment for up to 8 hours of exposure. And while it's not wrong that fluorine is a lethal gas, it is heavily used in many industries and in medicine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorine#In…
Isn't a bigger factor here, in addition to their careless attitude, the fact that they've started manufacturing semiconductors on land specifically only zoned for light industrial use, when, at least per her article, fabricating semiconductors is work that is required to be zoned heavy industrial? The issue being, of course, the proximity of residential to a "light industrial" vs. "heavy industrial" plot sure changes…
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This is an EPA report, presumably they do not base their findings upon any beef a whistleblower may have. And, not knowing more about the story as you seem to, she claims her beef is based on the fact that she got sick from gases Apple was venting from this same facility. At least from what I saw on Twitter, this EPA report, in some sense, is the beef.
ONE of her beeves is indeed based on this, but I believe she has also sued Apple for unrelated labor related issues. I agree that the EPA's report is based on first hand observations; OTOH I would not characterize the findings quite the same way she did. There certainly were a significant number of violations, but I don't have the context of knowing how many such violations are found in other facilities of comparable…