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Honestly surprised that Microsoft have not bought this up and integrated it into Visual Studio. LINQPad is gold.
Honestly surprised that Microsoft have not bought this up and integrated it into Visual Studio. LINQPad is gold.
There is already a C# REPL built into Visual Studio, called C# Interactive. It takes a bit of getting used to, but it's not bad at all.
Unfortunately, they still haven't gotten around to making it usable outside of Windows https://forum.linqpad.net/discussion/1935/installation-on-ma...
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They don't have Syntax Tree analysis yet but I hear it will be released soon Notice a common theme here? Literally zero ways to browse C# syntax trees available on the Mac. Nothing in the cloud either from what I could find. Roslyn was open-sourced in April 2014, which was 122 months ago. (edit: Another commenter pointed out that there is in fact a new VS Code extension that can do this, released Aug 2023) By the way…
Rider. Also, autocomplete works in VS Code debug tab just fine? Please stop trying to make the windows point.
https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/30065
https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/48810
https://github.com/dotnet/vscode-csharp/issues/1609
https://github.com/dotnet/vscode-csharp/issues/299
https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-dotnettools/issues/573
https://github.com/dotnet/vscode-csharp/issues/5276#issuecom...
A Rider license costs $419 per year per seat and Jetbrains has a poor quality record by today's standards, and if you are a serious developer that has to use one of their products, you'll find yourself at the mercy of numerous YouTrack tickets that have been open for years. They have a habit of shipping integrations that are only partially working, and then calling it a day (or the better part of a decade).
By the way, Rider may have been cheaper if not for the above moves by Microsoft: https://github.com/dotnet/core/issues/505
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Windows has a bit less than half the marketshare for developers according to the last Stackoverflow suvery. By not having a Linux and a MacOS version, you are losing close to half of developers. Even Microsoft themselves understood this.
There are a couple of problems here. Half of Stack Overflow "developers" might not use Windows, but the relevant population to measure is C# developers. Assuming as many Linux C# developers will buy the thing as Windows or MacOS developers do is an obvious mistake. > Even Microsoft themselves understood this. Microsoft understands, among other things, that they can't charge money for Linux tools.
> Microsoft understands, among other things, that they can't charge money for Linux tools.
It's the opposite trend going on, they embrace as much as possible Linux and port as much as they can.
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They don't have Syntax Tree analysis yet but I hear it will be released soon Notice a common theme here? Literally zero ways to browse C# syntax trees available on the Mac. Nothing in the cloud either from what I could find. Roslyn was open-sourced in April 2014, which was 122 months ago. (edit: Another commenter pointed out that there is in fact a new VS Code extension that can do this, released Aug 2023) By the way…
Autocomplete works fine interactively debugging on MacOS with JetBrains rider. Syntax trees can be browsed on https://sharplab.io/ or again via Rider and I'm sure there are some other tools that I'm not aware of. The Roslyn sdk is part of .NET (cross platform) these days so anyone can use it to build a visualiser should they wish to.
> The Roslyn sdk is part of .NET (cross platform) these days so anyone can use it to build a visualiser should they wish to.
Of course, but for most people that need this, they may just be trying to figure out how to do something as simple as adding an analyzer rule to a project, and don't have the luxury to be able to delay that work to spend weeks cobbling together a visualizer using an SDK that they may only have barely any knowledge with.
There are certain things that don't inspire the kind of passion it takes for volunteers to do this, and therefore it's up to those who have a financial motive to do so. Whether it be the rent-seekers at JetBrains, or someone other than Microsoft and doesn't have an incentive to make a competing OS more viable for developers. Without the .NET foundation's governance model and funding (regardless of who funded it), it would have never made it this far. See: https://github.com/dotnet/vscode-csharp/issues/5276
Honestly surprised that Microsoft have not bought this up and integrated it into Visual Studio. LINQPad is gold.
That is true of so many products. Notepad++, Paint.Net, Everything search. Products which would cost Microsoft absolute peanuts to acquire. Or even just use that as a model and rip it off entirely with an in house version.
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Rider. Also, autocomplete works in VS Code debug tab just fine? Please stop trying to make the windows point.
What are you talking about? This is well documented. https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/30065 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/48810 https://github.com/dotnet/vscode-csharp/issues/1609 https://github.com/dotnet/vscode-csharp/issues/299 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-dotnettools/issues/573 https://github.com/dotnet/vscode-csharp/issues/5276#issuecom... https://isdotnetopen.com/ A Rider license c…
Also, please do not link posts from Miguel De Icaza when he isn't in a good mood. He, unfortunately, does not provide constructive and/or unbiased criticism on .NET after moving out to Swift.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make but current day support for C# on macOS and Linux is very good. It is even in a better shape than many other languages that have been platform-agnostic from the start, yet still don't have such good debugger, static analysis and profiler options.