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Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

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Post by cyanydeez »

Infinity315 wrote: post #136

There is a disappointing amount of character slander rather than refutation of the author's claims happening on this thread. The foremost trustworthy party is the EPA. Note, I am not a lawyer or anyone who could professionally give an opinion on this.* The most egregious violation the author purports Apple did is the illegal venting of hazardous chemicals. IMHO, the most plausible evidence supporting the author's cla…

the coincidence between the author and the "atleast" date simply means there's not enough evidence before that date. Dealing with EPA and other pollution control agencies will tell you very much they dont want to get into these situations because it makes them look bad.

It likely was happening way before this and the EPA could likely pinpoint the exact date based on simple log entries, but they won't stick their neck out farther than corroboration goes.

Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

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Post by [deleted] »

cyanydeez wrote: post #141
Infinity315 wrote: post #136

There is a disappointing amount of character slander rather than refutation of the author's claims happening on this thread. The foremost trustworthy party is the EPA. Note, I am not a lawyer or anyone who could professionally give an opinion on this.* The most egregious violation the author purports Apple did is the illegal venting of hazardous chemicals. IMHO, the most plausible evidence supporting the author's cla…

the coincidence between the author and the "atleast" date simply means there's not enough evidence before that date. Dealing with EPA and other pollution control agencies will tell you very much they dont want to get into these situations because it makes them look bad. It likely was happening way before this and the EPA could likely pinpoint the exact date based on simple log entries, but they won't stick their neck…

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Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

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Post by threeseed »

I wish she would just state the facts as it makes it hard to read.

For example, she says that EPA typically arrives unannounced but because the Apple EH&S team were present this is indicative of some conspiracy to allow Apple time to cover-up issues.

But this is just her opinion with a more logical explanation being that Apple Security simply contacted the EH&S team when the EPA arrived at the front door.

Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

#144

Post by [deleted] »

cyanydeez wrote: post #141
Infinity315 wrote: post #136

There is a disappointing amount of character slander rather than refutation of the author's claims happening on this thread. The foremost trustworthy party is the EPA. Note, I am not a lawyer or anyone who could professionally give an opinion on this.* The most egregious violation the author purports Apple did is the illegal venting of hazardous chemicals. IMHO, the most plausible evidence supporting the author's cla…

the coincidence between the author and the "atleast" date simply means there's not enough evidence before that date. Dealing with EPA and other pollution control agencies will tell you very much they dont want to get into these situations because it makes them look bad. It likely was happening way before this and the EPA could likely pinpoint the exact date based on simple log entries, but they won't stick their neck…

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Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

#145

Post by mschuster91 »

Issues surrounding the author's personality aside (that have been raised enough in other threads, and quite a few of them in a tone I'd say borders on unethical): in Germany, we have strict zoning rules for heavy industry - some particularly bad polluters have up to 1500m of required distance to residential use [1], even if the area they're planning on operating in is already zoned industrial.

Wonder how Apple got approved to even construct this facility so close to residential (or, if Apple was there prior to residential usage, why residential construction was allowed so close to them), in California of all places that's even known here in Germany to have really strict zoning requirements.

[1] https://recht.nrw.de/lmi/owa/br_bes_text?anw_nr=1&gld_nr=2&u...

Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

#146

Post by BoredPositron »

mschuster91 wrote: post #145

Issues surrounding the author's personality aside (that have been raised enough in other threads, and quite a few of them in a tone I'd say borders on unethical): in Germany, we have strict zoning rules for heavy industry - some particularly bad polluters have up to 1500m of required distance to residential use [1], even if the area they're planning on operating in is already zoned industrial. Wonder how Apple got ap…

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Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

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Post by camillomiller »

BoredPositron wrote: post #146
mschuster91 wrote: post #145

Issues surrounding the author's personality aside (that have been raised enough in other threads, and quite a few of them in a tone I'd say borders on unethical): in Germany, we have strict zoning rules for heavy industry - some particularly bad polluters have up to 1500m of required distance to residential use [1], even if the area they're planning on operating in is already zoned industrial. Wonder how Apple got ap…

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Your comment gets the cake. The guy just expressed surprise at how zoning works in California and he is absolutely right. Your comment sounds like you didn’t read through.

Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

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Post by BoredPositron »

camillomiller wrote: post #147
BoredPositron wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Your comment gets the cake. The guy just expressed surprise at how zoning works in California and he is absolutely right. Your comment sounds like you didn’t read through.

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Re: US EPA Enforcement and Compliance on Apple Fabrication

#150

Post by cool_dude85 »

camillomiller wrote: post #149

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This is an EPA report, presumably they do not base their findings upon any beef a whistleblower may have.

And, not knowing more about the story as you seem to, she claims her beef is based on the fact that she got sick from gases Apple was venting from this same facility. At least from what I saw on Twitter, this EPA report, in some sense, is the beef.

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