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Is this the same system used by Boston MBTA? I was surprised to see single-use tap cards when I visited there for the first time yesterday. I wondered why the ticket isn't reloadable.
Most people who live in Boston use the reloadable CharlieCard ( https://www.mbta.com/fares/charliecard ) - these report as Mifare Classic 1k, which is a similar chip There are single-use fares as well, the "CharlieTicket" that you might've encountered. More CharlieCard NFC info: https://medium.com/@bobbyrsec/operation-charlie-hacking-the-... https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2031/DEF%20CON%2031%20pre...
The tiny chip that powers Montreal subway tickets
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#13- Montreals subway stations have this gritty, distinctively french atmosphere i loved it.
- Vancouvers above/below stations have no soul, distinctively anglo but above ground ones i liked.
- Montreal train cars use rubber wheels to my shock! Extremely loud.
- Vancouver train cars use some sort of electric system which im not familiar with ( have a few variants (newer hyundai rotem cars, old ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_BoeXqaV9c)
- Montreal subway does not cover the entire region like Vancouver's skytrain. Getting around is difficult without uber. Road conditions are horrible (pot holes remain unfixed for decades, city went broke hosting olympics long time ago), I just shudder how you can get around during the winter.
But the biggest shock was that in some instances, it was faster for me to walk then walk to the station and wait for the subway.
- Arriving at YVR: Skytrain runs directly from airport to a satellite city where its numerous public buses cover almost the entire MV. I could just tap through the toll gate with my credit card and wait for a bus which arrives on time quite frequently.
- Arrriving at YUL: Have to take a bus from airport for 30 minutes to Montreal but doesn't seem to respect time schedule. Got off somewhere in Montreal I don't remember (there was a large open artsy area) tried to wait for a bus but never came, gave up, got uber.
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#15Author here for all your NFC chip questions :-)
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#17This wasn’t super obvious to me until later in the article but this is about the single use tickets. Neat stuff, though I can’t say I love the concept of e-waste NFC.
Part of the “software eating the world” story is the decreased cost of precision that enabled the hardware substrate of software to be inexpensively and ubiquitously included in any mass produced object.
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#18The diameter of a neuron's axon is about 1 μm, this is getting close to biological levels of miniaturization.
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#19Author here for all your NFC chip questions :-)
How difficult is it to clone MIFARE Ultralight EV1 chips? You mention the UID is signed, can you simply copy this signature? Do you just need to buy one of the magical chips of the same design, that allow uid/serials to be written? What is the actual mechanism behind the DESFire and other secure NFC chips that prevents cloning?
The DESFire and other secure chips contain a cryptographic key that you can't access. Without the key, you can't make a clone of the chip. The cryptography provides authentication and encryption that you don't get with the cheap Ultralight chip.
I think this is all market segmentation; they don't put more security into the Ultralight chip because they don't want to cannibalize their higher-end sales.
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#20On the topic of NFC: my iPhone ApplePay thing taps so much more reliably than any of my credit or debit cards. Is this because it has its own power supply and doesn’t have to first be powered up by the machine?