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My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by rsanheim »

nikau wrote: post #53
OptionOfT wrote: post #14

I can't even remove 'Recommended' from the start menu, not even on a Pro for Workstations. Every time I search on the start menu there is a web search, impossible to turn off. How is that acceptable? I install Edge Beta to test something, and the I uninstall it. All of the sudden my search provider in my normal Edge is reset. And the nagging everywhere. No I don't want 'back-up' my files (OneDrive is not backup, it's…

Not justifying the shitty antics of MS, but most of the junk can be turned off by registry settings which most large organisations automate via GPO

This illustrates just how ridiculously screwed up Windows is now.

No one should have to resort to registry hacking or the many scripts or hacks available to regain control over basic UX, privacy, or usability selections. It is absolutely absurd.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #7

My friend recently got a new Windows PC. Out of the box, it spent maybe 15-20 minutes updating itself. "We're getting things ready", reboot, create a Microsoft account, 10 data sharing settings to turn off, "almost ready..." Iirc, a MacBook is ready to use without any updates.

Win11 install was v.slow, much slower than Pop_OS!, say, and infinitely more annoying. And each user (on Home edition) that logs in has to be configured ... "we're still going to advertise to you, you may as well let us spy on you so you get adverts you'll like" ... sheesh.

You're immediately hit with apps you can't uninstall (Edge) too.

Fwiw, CS2 ran away smoother for me on Kubuntu than it does on Win11 (same hardware). I wasn't expecting that.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by Krssst »

karaterobot wrote: post #60

People don't switch operating systems at the drop of a hat. There's got to be a pretty good reason for it. All the people switching away from Windows, those are probably users that are lost to Microsoft forever. I get that their money comes from other places, but I bet there's a second-order effect of people who don't use Windows—maybe even people who now hate Windows—not having any desire stick with their other prod…

Compatibility with hardware and software means I have to use it even if I don't want to.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by nbzso »

My prediction for power users: Linux distros away from Ubuntu. MacOS will be AI crap-ware in no time. People love this bullshit. As usual. Windows Adware AI crap-ware will stay for gamers and specific apps. And please, use simplewall. It's a free app which solves a lot of problems, as Little Snitch on macOS.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

jijji wrote: post #89
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Microsoft is subsidising cost of the immense infra and development cost by showing you ads in excahnge for a cheaper license.

I hope that was sarcasm

I don't know for Microsoft but xiaomi has been saying this

https://www.androidauthority.com/xiaomi-ads-business-966584/

>This advertisement business is what allows Xiaomi to subsidize and offset the cost of the hardware and reach those astonishingly low price points.

So it wont be surprising if Microsoft says the same

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by DontchaKnowit »

OptionOfT wrote: post #14

I can't even remove 'Recommended' from the start menu, not even on a Pro for Workstations. Every time I search on the start menu there is a web search, impossible to turn off. How is that acceptable? I install Edge Beta to test something, and the I uninstall it. All of the sudden my search provider in my normal Edge is reset. And the nagging everywhere. No I don't want 'back-up' my files (OneDrive is not backup, it's…

My start menu hasnt even worked for over a year on 2 seperate computers now.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by flakiness »

listenallyall wrote: post #109
karaterobot wrote: post #60

People don't switch operating systems at the drop of a hat. There's got to be a pretty good reason for it. All the people switching away from Windows, those are probably users that are lost to Microsoft forever. I get that their money comes from other places, but I bet there's a second-order effect of people who don't use Windows—maybe even people who now hate Windows—not having any desire stick with their other prod…

- stock is at all-time high - "all the people" is probably actually well under 1% of users - successfully switched all corporate accounts from single-purchase w/ occasional renewal to ongoing monthly subscription - also a lot of of consumer subscriptions - Azure - Github - LinkedIn - OpenAI investment I actually agree with you that the Windows experience is getting worse, quickly. But on balance, seems more is going…

And I think that's why Windows gets worse. They just don't care anymore. I have wanted to like Windows and hoped Microsoft to get serious against these consumer-centric companies like Apple and Google, to use their cloud revenue to pump Windows up. That hasn't happened.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by CamperBob2 »

wvenable wrote: post #33
MBCook wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those aren’t updates. They’re obnoxious. I’m getting more annoyed with MacOS too for that and other reasons mostly around services. But you can start using it without OS updates.

I'm not sure why you'd want to start using an OS without running the latest revision.

What business is it of yours?

Or Microsoft's?

Or Apple's?

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by bandrami »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #37
airstrike wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What software specifically is preventing you from moving, if you don't mind me asking?

I am chained to Windows (not the OP) all over the place. CAD programs, e.g. SolidWorks, Alibre, SketchUp, eDrawings, Fusion 360? Windows. CAM programs, e.g. BobCAM, MeshCAM, MasterCAM? Windows. Office? Windows (LibreOffice is not a functional replacement - you can’t risk having documents being sent to clients looking bad). FileMaker, Act! Pro, other desktop databases? Windows. Router control software, e.g. Mach3, Mac…

> you can’t risk having documents being sent to clients looking bad

So I have some terrible news for you about what happens if your client has an older version of Office than you do...

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Post by et1337 »

hypeatei wrote: post #95
FredPret wrote: post #76

- no more solitaire - cortana - ads… ADS… in the OS - forced updates - windows live accounts (or is it microsoft.com? wait, no, I think it’s office.com?) - two system settings screens - major new versions after “last version of Windows ever: 10”

Oh man, the absolute clusterfuck of settings screens is irritating. OS settings interface isn't a fucking micro service project; it's like technically, yes, they're updating the same things underneath but I don't want to spend mental energy thinking about the best way to update network settings in

To be fair, I still have no idea how to set the DNS server on an Ubuntu server in a way that won’t get wiped out on reboot. Is it resolv.conf? Nope, that’s generated by another tool. systemd-resolve? I think that’s getting closer… network manager? By the time I figure it out they’ll add another one to the pile.
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