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My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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About the first time there was some hidden Registry value jacking up my life, Windows made me feel like the product, instead of Microsoft's OS or application. Open Source isn't challenge-free, but it's much closer to the chess experience that I seek than the poker experience of proprietary alternatives.

I don't understand the chess/poker metaphor; could you elaborate on that, please?

Just guessing: in chess you have all the information, whereas in poker you don't.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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MacOS is going through the same thing. It’s not nearly as bad, but Apple keeps pushing their services and being more in your face about it. I don’t mind them trying. But don’t keep asking, or ask again on every update, or badge settings because I haven’t my added to my wallet, or keep telling me how much better a family plan is when I’m single. It’s not better, it’s a waste of money. I can’t imagine switching off mac…

MacOS is getting worse, for sure, but compared to Windows, it's way "behind" in all the bad ways. As a life-long Windows user, who is also comfortable with Linux, MacOS seems to have the best of all worlds, currently.

I bought my first Windows computer in about 20 years a few months ago. It’s got 11 on it.

It's an insanely tiny very low power thing that was almost as cheap as I could get. I just needed a Windows PC around and it fit my needs. Totally fine for basic stuff.

But wow. I’ve seen articles about how it was getting worse, new things MS has done, pulled back on, and put in later.

I was used to all the stupid advertisement stickers that have been there forever. Bing desktop images I’ve seen before and is a nice default IMO.

But the big ads in the start menu? And the thing of the day on the search bar? Candy Crush and other crap? CONSTANT OneDrive and Office 365 nagging? Are you sure you didn’t mean Edge this time? Really?

I’d heard of it all but it’s so comically over the top in person. And takes a while to find out how to disable.

My last personal PC was XP Pro in the early 2000s. I’ve used a number of work PCs with newer versions but they were all locked down with group policy so none of that appeared.

Windows is a self parody at this point. I know it’s a very good OS technically. But wow they found out how to ruin it.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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I can't even remove 'Recommended' from the start menu, not even on a Pro for Workstations. Every time I search on the start menu there is a web search, impossible to turn off. How is that acceptable? I install Edge Beta to test something, and the I uninstall it. All of the sudden my search provider in my normal Edge is reset. And the nagging everywhere. No I don't want 'back-up' my files (OneDrive is not backup, it's…

Not justifying the shitty antics of MS, but most of the junk can be turned off by registry settings which most large organisations automate via GPO

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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The only reason I still dual boot win11 is for 3 programs that require windows only drivers. I purchased that laptop specifically because it supported dual ssd.

Win11 offline install and de-dork instructions is a must:

https://github.com/StellarSand/privacy-settings/blob/main/Pr...

Even then, one must assume win11 comes with a telemetry payload every second update.

Linux has its own share of issues, but is far easier to develop on (if you check the hardware support before purchase). The only parts of win11 that are any good was the FOSS they packaged in.

Strange times for sure, MS still chasing a set-top box market 30 years after it flopped =)

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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People need to get over the in OS ads. They’re easily removable honestly. Personally I’ve never seen windows look this good in years. The whole system shell looks really good and well designed these days. On top of that the included features like wsl2 and hyperv are great.

And you need to get bent.

Pardon my French, but someone had to say it and you needed to hear it.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

MacOS is going through the same thing. It’s not nearly as bad, but Apple keeps pushing their services and being more in your face about it. I don’t mind them trying. But don’t keep asking, or ask again on every update, or badge settings because I haven’t my added to my wallet, or keep telling me how much better a family plan is when I’m single. It’s not better, it’s a waste of money. I can’t imagine switching off mac…

Wait until you run a PiHole and see all the telemetry and dns requests that are made to *.apple.com even when you are not signed into iCloud.

I’m signed in and use a lot of Apple’s stuff so it doesn’t matter to me.

It’s the ads for services or upgrades to service plans or new features of services that I don’t care about that I hate.

IAPs ruined the App Store, services are ruining the OSes.

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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My friend recently got a new Windows PC. Out of the box, it spent maybe 15-20 minutes updating itself. "We're getting things ready", reboot, create a Microsoft account, 10 data sharing settings to turn off, "almost ready..." Iirc, a MacBook is ready to use without any updates.

> a MacBook is ready to use without any updates. Do you want to give this app access to downloads? To desktop? To microphone? What about this app? Sign in to iCloud. Sign in again. Maybe this time? Nope, sign in to iCloud. I’ve picked my poison, and it’s Apple, but it’s far from perfect.

What is the alternative to the access problem? Would you prefer apps be able to access that stuff without permission? I get it’s annoying but at least it’s safe?

Re: My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

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People don't switch operating systems at the drop of a hat. There's got to be a pretty good reason for it. All the people switching away from Windows, those are probably users that are lost to Microsoft forever. I get that their money comes from other places, but I bet there's a second-order effect of people who don't use Windows—maybe even people who now hate Windows—not having any desire stick with their other products or services either. It's weird that they don't seem to care about this slow diminution of their brand.
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