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Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Re: Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Post by moltar »

nsm wrote: post #6

I know nothing about architecture/construction, but how much of these timelines and costs are due to the massively inefficient construction costs in Anglophone countries? Like, does it really take double digit millions and >2 years to fix some roof panels, when we can repair bridges in a fraction of that time? How much of this is going to be permitting, excess proceduralism and "environmental assessment" crap and how…

There is/was also rampant corruption ran by real mafia. Some of them are from Montreal and are on the run in Sicily. Not sure if this spread to Ontario but given the timelines I imagine it had.

See Turcot collapse in Montreal.

See Olympic building in Montreal.

Re: Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Post by Scoundreller »

frfl wrote: post #4
walterbell wrote: post #2

> claim the roof of the science centre is at risk of collapsing.. the same year that he is proposing to move the science centre to Ontario Place.. "to support a private foreign spa company".. allows public infrastructure to fall apart in order to advance private interests.. "Closing a world-class science and cultural institution is heartbreaking".. "The [province] could have invested in revitalizing the Science Centr…

Was one of those 250,000 kids. The only real vivid memory I have left of that unfortunately was seeing a Tour de France documentary in the IMAX screen they have. That was really incredible. Haven't really followed the story closely, but quite sad to see it getting (forcefully?) shutdown like this.

And it’s a real IMAX dome screen, not the diluted version that gets the stamp these days.

Re: Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Post by saghm »

amichail wrote: post #9

While science is important and someone has to do it, I don't think it is as intellectually rewarding as hobby/indie computer programming. Maybe trying to get students interested in science instead of computer programming is problematic for this reason?

Why view it as a dichotomy? Expose kids to both (and other fruitful intellectual hobbies) and let them pick the ones they like. I don't think it's "problematic" to consider that how rewarding a hobby feels might not be an objective hierarchy and instead might vary by individual.

Re: Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Post by mcphage »

Scoundreller wrote: post #12
frfl wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was one of those 250,000 kids. The only real vivid memory I have left of that unfortunately was seeing a Tour de France documentary in the IMAX screen they have. That was really incredible. Haven't really followed the story closely, but quite sad to see it getting (forcefully?) shutdown like this.

And it’s a real IMAX dome screen, not the diluted version that gets the stamp these days.

I’m just glad I got to take my kids to the museum and watch a movie on the dome last year before it closed.

Re: Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Post by imtourist2718 »

The Science Centre is actually a collection of different buildings, I highly doubt that all these are structurally unsound now prompting the closure of the entire centre. It's highly convenient for this to happen now when the Premiere of the province has been advocating selling off the valuable land to his developer buddies.

Re: Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Post by up-n-atom »

As someone who recently took their nephews to the Science Centre, not visiting since high school roughly 25 years ago, it was pretty decrepit and rundown. Regardless of the politics surrounding all this, it’s in desperate need of a rejuvenating both in terms of infrastructure as well as exhibits.

PS not worth the admission, if you want to take the kids on an educational adventure go to Ripley's Aquarium.

Re: Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Post by not_your_mentat »

The great blue whale bones that hung from the ceiling was found beached in the maritimes, transported to Maple, and buried behind my dad's OFRI lab in an attempt to decompose the flesh and extract the bones (eventual success!). Our family dog dug it up, chewed it, rolled in it, contracted worms from it, and died. My family will forever be attached to this structure.

Re: Ontario Science Centre to close immediately due to risk of roof collapse

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Post by morkalork »

moltar wrote: post #11
nsm wrote: post #6

I know nothing about architecture/construction, but how much of these timelines and costs are due to the massively inefficient construction costs in Anglophone countries? Like, does it really take double digit millions and >2 years to fix some roof panels, when we can repair bridges in a fraction of that time? How much of this is going to be permitting, excess proceduralism and "environmental assessment" crap and how…

There is/was also rampant corruption ran by real mafia. Some of them are from Montreal and are on the run in Sicily. Not sure if this spread to Ontario but given the timelines I imagine it had. See Turcot collapse in Montreal. See Olympic building in Montreal.

It's just a stadium roof, what could it cost, $870M?

But seriously, the city has had issues finding contractors for basic services because they'd all been banned for ties with organized crime. It's absolutely mad. Then there's what's happening at the port with all the stolen cars...

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