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The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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Re: The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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> Instead of an engineer who’s an order of magnitude “better” than their peers, leaders should look for people who are willing and able to learn—and to help their whole team learn and execute, too.

No. Build a whole team with people who willing to learn new stuff around that rock star.

Re: The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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> Instead of an engineer who’s an order of magnitude “better” than their peers, leaders should look for people who are willing and able to learn—and to help their whole team learn and execute, too. No. Build a whole team with people who willing to learn new stuff around that rock star.

~~No.~~ Yes, but you should also ... . To maximize the impact they can have.

Re: The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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> Instead of an engineer who’s an order of magnitude “better” than their peers, leaders should look for people who are willing and able to learn—and to help their whole team learn and execute, too. No. Build a whole team with people who willing to learn new stuff around that rock star.

To continue the analogy: Rock stars want to rock, not to teach music.

Re: The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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If you have ever worked in no-tech IT sectors, such as financial institutions, you'll notice that the overal level of knowledge, even with senior developers, is limited, which makes someone who is just'good'very quickly a 10x developer. But it's not the 10x developer that is super good here, it's the other team members, who are just utter shit

Re: The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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If you have ever worked in no-tech IT sectors, such as financial institutions, you'll notice that the overal level of knowledge, even with senior developers, is limited, which makes someone who is just'good'very quickly a 10x developer. But it's not the 10x developer that is super good here, it's the other team members, who are just utter shit

Just to share somewhat of a "corollary" to this: if you get into one of such institutions, chances are there already is a "10x developer" and chances are those environments are the kind of environments where a few people (or maybe a single person) can monopolize the decision making process (because they are regarded as the 10x developer).

So think twice about pursuing such environments: very often it's not the other team members that are utter shit... Is that the "10x engineer" is making that work environment toxic and not worth staying for other "10x engineer" (but also for "15x engineers" and "35x engineers" who only lack the context about that specific domain).

So the logic is actually inverse: those environments very often will only retain a manipulative/toxic/narcissistic "10x engineer" and a bunch of people that are okay with doing whatever and getting the paycheck at the end of the month (and get, maybe wrongly, referred to as "utter shits").

Don't ask me how i know.

Re: The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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post #7

If you have ever worked in no-tech IT sectors, such as financial institutions, you'll notice that the overal level of knowledge, even with senior developers, is limited, which makes someone who is just'good'very quickly a 10x developer. But it's not the 10x developer that is super good here, it's the other team members, who are just utter shit

Just to share somewhat of a "corollary" to this: if you get into one of such institutions, chances are there already is a "10x developer" and chances are those environments are the kind of environments where a few people (or maybe a single person) can monopolize the decision making process (because they are regarded as the 10x developer). So think twice about pursuing such environments: very often it's not the other…

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Re: The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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post #7

If you have ever worked in no-tech IT sectors, such as financial institutions, you'll notice that the overal level of knowledge, even with senior developers, is limited, which makes someone who is just'good'very quickly a 10x developer. But it's not the 10x developer that is super good here, it's the other team members, who are just utter shit

Just to share somewhat of a "corollary" to this: if you get into one of such institutions, chances are there already is a "10x developer" and chances are those environments are the kind of environments where a few people (or maybe a single person) can monopolize the decision making process (because they are regarded as the 10x developer). So think twice about pursuing such environments: very often it's not the other…

This is making me reflect about my current work. Prior to reading this I used to think that our tech lead just happened to have the best ideas but now I’m just not sure anymore. Do they have the best ideas or did they master the politics necessary to push their ideas up the stack and everybody else doesn't care enough? I wonder…

Re: The 10x developer makes their whole team better

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post #9
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to share somewhat of a "corollary" to this: if you get into one of such institutions, chances are there already is a "10x developer" and chances are those environments are the kind of environments where a few people (or maybe a single person) can monopolize the decision making process (because they are regarded as the 10x developer). So think twice about pursuing such environments: very often it's not the other…

This is making me reflect about my current work. Prior to reading this I used to think that our tech lead just happened to have the best ideas but now I’m just not sure anymore. Do they have the best ideas or did they master the politics necessary to push their ideas up the stack and everybody else doesn't care enough? I wonder…

> Do they have the best ideas or did they master the politics necessary to push their ideas up the stack and everybody else doesn't care enough?

Exactly: I had a very similar experience in my previous work.

A single guy was super-effective at pushing the technology he was strong in, and preventing anything else from reaching even development environment.

He was effectively a 10x because no other colleague was given an actual chance of shining.

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