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Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by Merad » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 1:36 PM UTC

Harmohit wrote: post #52

gavmor wrote: post #21

I've never been more conscious of my breath while computing than when I was playing Subnautica[0], which proffers a (notoriously tense) game loop significantly involving running out of air and coming up for breath. Additionally, I would take swigs of water when my character was getting thirsty. A surprisingly embodied video game. 0. https://unknownworlds.com/subnautica/

[Spoiler Alert] Subnautica is amazing! I remember the first time I discovered the huge turtle whales - it was such a surreal feeling. The world design of the game does such a good job of offering a guided exploration that feels completely natural. The contours of Subnautica's world guide you into specific areas and every area has something new to offer - it truly feels like exploring another planet. Moreover, the sen…

The game actually does a pretty masterful job of tricking players and convincing them to go way, way overboard in their preparations. The submarine/mobile base and the robotic mining suit aren't even necessary to finish the game. The final levels of the game can actually be finished just by swimming freely with the seaglide. The rare material that's only available in those levels can be picked up as broken pieces laying on the sea floor, and IIRC you only need 6 pieces of it to finish the game.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by TeMPOraL » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 1:42 PM UTC

MezzoDelCammin wrote: post #110

TeMPOraL wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first rule of Subnautica: if in doubt, go deeper :). But yeah, I remember there were a few moments I wasn't exactly sure what I'm supposed to be doing; fortunately, the world was interesting enough to explore that I ended up stumbling on "next steps" at random. Probably as intended - the game doesn't really force you into taking a specific path horizontally; the vertical axis provides a natural progression path.…

except if You're in the void just outside the main continent

Oh right. "Warning. Entering ecological dead zone." Wait, what?!

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by TeMPOraL » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 2:02 PM UTC

Merad wrote: post #111

Harmohit wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[Spoiler Alert] Subnautica is amazing! I remember the first time I discovered the huge turtle whales - it was such a surreal feeling. The world design of the game does such a good job of offering a guided exploration that feels completely natural. The contours of Subnautica's world guide you into specific areas and every area has something new to offer - it truly feels like exploring another planet. Moreover, the sen…

The game actually does a pretty masterful job of tricking players and convincing them to go way, way overboard in their preparations. The submarine/mobile base and the robotic mining suit aren't even necessary to finish the game. The final levels of the game can actually be finished just by swimming freely with the seaglide. The rare material that's only available in those levels can be picked up as broken pieces lay…

> The game actually does a pretty masterful job of tricking players and convincing them to go way, way overboard in their preparations.

The serenity of this game, occasionally punctured by jump scares from the deep - yeah, it will do that to you. You better believe I had a goddamn submarine loaded for bear (whatever that means in an almost completely non-violent game) before approaching the final levels.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by philote » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 2:09 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #41

gavmor wrote: post #21

I've never been more conscious of my breath while computing than when I was playing Subnautica[0], which proffers a (notoriously tense) game loop significantly involving running out of air and coming up for breath. Additionally, I would take swigs of water when my character was getting thirsty. A surprisingly embodied video game. 0. https://unknownworlds.com/subnautica/

When I was playing Subnautica for the first time, several years ago, I got immersed to the point that 1) I really felt like being underwater - my mind was recalling feelings from various swimming pool experiences; and 2) it changed my relationship with water. I found myself having a desire to swim, a kind of pull I don't think I experienced before. Didn't get that when I picked up Subnautica: Below Zero a few weeks a…

I started playing for the first time a few days ago, and in VR. I've never really looked at any information about the game, so I pretty much went in blind. I'm having an absolute blast. Just this morning I got to watch my rescue ship get blown up, and enjoyed every second of it.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by dontlaugh » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 2:15 PM UTC

Harmohit wrote: post #52

gavmor wrote: post #21

I've never been more conscious of my breath while computing than when I was playing Subnautica[0], which proffers a (notoriously tense) game loop significantly involving running out of air and coming up for breath. Additionally, I would take swigs of water when my character was getting thirsty. A surprisingly embodied video game. 0. https://unknownworlds.com/subnautica/

[Spoiler Alert] Subnautica is amazing! I remember the first time I discovered the huge turtle whales - it was such a surreal feeling. The world design of the game does such a good job of offering a guided exploration that feels completely natural. The contours of Subnautica's world guide you into specific areas and every area has something new to offer - it truly feels like exploring another planet. Moreover, the sen…

Below Zero is easier to play with less building, give it a try.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by depaya » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 2:25 PM UTC

zero0529 wrote: post #31

zeroxfe wrote: post #5

One of the things you quickly discover when you start meditating is how deeply your breath is connected to your mind and body. You can literally detect a thought forming before it does simply by sensing subtle changes in your breathing. You'll also notice how the most trivial thoughts also have a physical manifestation in your body, e.g., mild tension in your eyelids, or a tingling in your abdomen, etc.

How do I get started meditating? Any sources or books?

Try a float tank (sensory depravation tank). IMO it's like easy mode for meditating and I've thoroughly enjoyed it.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by easeout » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 2:25 PM UTC

gavmor wrote: post #21

I've never been more conscious of my breath while computing than when I was playing Subnautica[0], which proffers a (notoriously tense) game loop significantly involving running out of air and coming up for breath. Additionally, I would take swigs of water when my character was getting thirsty. A surprisingly embodied video game. 0. https://unknownworlds.com/subnautica/

There's a moment early in Resident Evil 7 VR where you're up to your neck in water in a tight space. You completely fool yourself, you feel the mass of water on your chest, and you start breathing like you're in a pool.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by recursive » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 3:08 PM UTC

j7ake wrote: post #69

recursive wrote: post #49

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I've been a piano player for more than 30 years. I'm not a pro by any means, but I perform regularly. I'm not saying I'm a great player, just that I have some experience with the instrument. I've never heard of the breath thing.

Here is Maxim Vengerov discussing about breathing in music in his masterclass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWDK5aUW4-Q&ab_channel=Maxim...

The given examples seem all be using pieces where the tempo moves around a lot. It makes some sense to me in that context. Although I don't personally play much music like that.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by lm28469 » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 3:28 PM UTC

janci wrote: post #8

Is it specific to screens tho? How does it compare to reading a book, writing a letter by hand, sewing, cutting vegetables for lunch, curiously disassenbling an alarm clock or any other activity that requires focus and concentration?

One of the main issue is sitting for extended periods of time with no physical activity whatsoever. This is one of the worst position for breathing (compared to laying down or standing up at least). Unless you're consciously reminding yourself to breathe normally you will default to shallow breathing.

Virtually nobody sits 8+ hours a day reading books, writing letter, sewing or cutting veggies

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Post by averageRoyalty » Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 3:50 PM UTC

an_aparallel wrote: post #91

kjkjadksj wrote: post #17

Computers are like these magic devices to get us into potentially a fight or flight response with zero physical danger. People’s heart rates rise when they get an email from work. I can’t imagine its good for the health, mating these mental responses that are designed to go along with a physical response with just sedentary behavior instead. And doing it every day all your working life no less. What does this mean in…

Email apnea - was an article linked here a while ago. It's a big problem - the ridiculousness of the proposition makes it most likely less talked about...

In fact it's mentioned in the third paragraph of the article you're commenting upon.