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Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by lurkersince2013 »

Scotrix wrote: post #44

Will test it and see if it’s a replacement for Magnet. I have another very annoying issue with 3 screens which recover from energy saving after sleep slightly delayed and screw up my window positioning once in a while where all open windows end up on the main screen (I’m using spaces + a single desktop for all screens). Does anyone know about a solution / tool here which rearranges windows on a previous saved state p…

Oh yes, I forgot how much of a pain that is. It’s so frustrating.

I’ve been using this for the last couple of years and forgot it was even an issue:

https://cordlessdog.com/stay/

Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by teruakohatu »

MrKai77 wrote: post #21
jasonrm wrote: post #17

Open-source, except for the "new framework used to make Loop's settings window", so don't expect to build from source. https://github.com/MrKai77/Loop/issues/406

As stated in the comment on GitHub, Luminare will only be accessible by sponsors. If you have financial restrictions or are not able to sponsor me, I am open to giving the you the source code. However, this is all in order to make Loop more profitable, as I have put all my free time into making it. I hope you understand :)

> this is all in order to make Loop more profitable, as I have put all my free time into making it.

How do you plan on monetising Loop?

Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by leonseled »

whatever1 wrote: post #25
DavideNL wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having tried a lot of them, Contexts is one of the best Window Switcher replacements i could find, have been using it (and Rectangle) for a long time; It’s fast, great quick search abilities, including `fn + [key]` to quick switch (acronym), etc. And it doesn't constantly get updates, it just does its thing and does it well.

I've got an annoying bug that made Contexts unusable to me. After 10-15 minutes it steals focus from the active window and then the OS will try to bring up the previous app, which means it might even switch desktops to do so. If I quit contexts bug goes away for some time, but it returns after a while :( Sent an email to the creator, but given the update cadence I am not holding my breath for a fix this decade.

IIRC it has something to do with full screen apps/use of spaces. Just don’t use either and the bug shouldn’t occur. Annoying but I love the app too much that it was worth giving those up.

If it annoys you enough see if rcmd works for you. It’s the next best alternative Ive found so far. The Dev is great too I use a bunch of his other apps (Lunar and Clop).

Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by sshine »

MrKai77 wrote: post #33
sshine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone disputes rewarding individuals for software they provide to their patrons. I hope you prosper! But "open source to those who pay" is quite a stretch of the definition. If you check Open Source Initiative's list of approved licenses, you won't find anything that fits this definition: https://opensource.org/licenses The closest I know to what you're describing is Business Source License (BSL): http…

This did not occur to me, thanks for bringing this to my attention! I will definitely look into this! I guess Luminare may end up being fully open-sourced.

This fits even more with the Wikipedia definition of BSL.

Just call it what it is, there are no feel-good points for advertising it as something it isn't.

People are ambivalent about BSL licenses because of the way companies use them to step back from their previous commitment to open source.

They're still an improvement over closed-source licenses.

Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by soraminazuki »

filleokus wrote: post #43
cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unequivocally false. A sole copyright holder is not bound by license terms in the same way as parties to whom the work is being licensed.

Maybe I'm missing something? But my assumption was that if I "acquired" (downloaded…) software licensed under e.g GPLv3, me as the user at least have the theoretical possibility to pursue the rights granted to me by the copyright holder in the license. Of course the copyright holder can license new distributions under a different license (or different licenses at the same time). But are you saying that a copyright ho…

No one claimed or even hinted that authors can retroactively revoke the license. But sole authors aren't bound by the terms of the GPL when they themselves distribute the software because they already have that right as an author without a license, as opposed to others who are granted that right by the license.

Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by fnord123 »

MrKai77 wrote: post #33
sshine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone disputes rewarding individuals for software they provide to their patrons. I hope you prosper! But "open source to those who pay" is quite a stretch of the definition. If you check Open Source Initiative's list of approved licenses, you won't find anything that fits this definition: https://opensource.org/licenses The closest I know to what you're describing is Business Source License (BSL): http…

This did not occur to me, thanks for bringing this to my attention! I will definitely look into this! I guess Luminare may end up being fully open-sourced.

You can sell GPL software. But the purchasers can then turn around and distribute it: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMon...

Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by spooneybarger »

MrKai77 wrote: post #33
sshine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone disputes rewarding individuals for software they provide to their patrons. I hope you prosper! But "open source to those who pay" is quite a stretch of the definition. If you check Open Source Initiative's list of approved licenses, you won't find anything that fits this definition: https://opensource.org/licenses The closest I know to what you're describing is Business Source License (BSL): http…

This did not occur to me, thanks for bringing this to my attention! I will definitely look into this! I guess Luminare may end up being fully open-sourced.

I don't know if it would work for you, but dual licensing GPL software is a common way folks generate money to support their work.

Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by filleokus »

soraminazuki wrote: post #55
filleokus wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm missing something? But my assumption was that if I "acquired" (downloaded…) software licensed under e.g GPLv3, me as the user at least have the theoretical possibility to pursue the rights granted to me by the copyright holder in the license. Of course the copyright holder can license new distributions under a different license (or different licenses at the same time). But are you saying that a copyright ho…

No one claimed or even hinted that authors can retroactively revoke the license. But sole authors aren't bound by the terms of the GPL when they themselves distribute the software because they already have that right as an author without a license, as opposed to others who are granted that right by the license.

Hmm. I interpreted "[not publishing source code] goes also against the GPLv3 license that you're using" as meaning that the author is "bound" by the license to provide the source code.

Of course, the terms in GPLv3 that puts limits on the licensee / user (like that derivate works must be GPLv3) are not relevant.

But section 6 in the license stating that the source code must be distributed still holds true. Either OP distributes the source code to people who have the binaries, or the work is not licensed under GPLv3?

Re: Loop: Open-source macOS window manager

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Post by csmeyer »

How does this compare to magnet? Magnet has worked well for me for years, although recently I was trying to clean up my menu bar and realized there was no way to remove the menu bar icon. I’ll ask for some advice on that here actually since there are some Mac experts, is there some terminal incantation to remove a menu bar item?
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