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Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

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post #12

I use Firefox for most things at home, including a lot of browsing YouTube. I don't have the issues you're describing. Though I am on YT Premium and use uBlock.

> Though I am on YT Premium and use uBlock.

YT Premium is supposed to be ad-less? What the advantages of uBlock here?

Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

#42
post #24

I don't have much problems (Firefox on Mac) but seeing how many others complain I guess it is just a matter of time before I get moved to another A/B testing "experiment" testing how much I can endure before I give up and switch to Chrome (it won't happen). Seeing how many of the users report the problem goes away if they let Firefox report as Chrome I personally am rather sure this is intentionally from Googles side…

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. I feel its far more likely Google devs are just lazy and don't bother to test in Firefox, much like devs at pretty much every company these days. Unfortunate, but (probably) not part of some deliberate evil plan.

Devs are lazy, but management systematically underfunds the web test team to keep it difficult to test on other browsers.

Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

#43
post #35
post #17

There's a known buffering issue with YouTube on Firefox. Apparently it's been fixed and will ship in the next point release: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1878510#c114 https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1djkdql/for_people... According to the reddit comments it's a broken implementation by Google that doesn't trip up Chrome.

On Linux (Kubuntu with KDE and Wayland), I cannot use Youtube at all as it freezes for a long time when I start playing a video. It plays the sound but the browser stays frozen for around half a minute or so. It does eventually start showing the video as well... Do you know if there's any known issue for this?

Use yt-dlp and a frontend like tartube?

Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

#44
post #3

The Google Cloud web interface is horribly slow for me in Firefox. For instance, while filtering logs, it can take a few seconds for my keystrokes to show up. This is the only website I've noticed performing poorly like this.

that issue is visible in any browser, the GCP console is really bad in some places. for example checking metrics can freeze chrome on a desktop with 7800x3d+64gb ram

Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

#45
Let's face it. Chrome is the new Internet Explorer. Especially when it comes to google and microsoft websites 'extending' the standard.

They may not be using explicit "Works best with Internet Explorer" stickers, but I come across a "requires edge or chrome to work properly" or "for best results"-style popup at least twice a week. Or sometimes things just straight-up don't work until you switch to chrome.

Don't get me started on text-fragments.

Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

#46
post #3

The Google Cloud web interface is horribly slow for me in Firefox. For instance, while filtering logs, it can take a few seconds for my keystrokes to show up. This is the only website I've noticed performing poorly like this.

If you want to make a case against SPA/Angular just show someone the monstrosity GCP dashboard is.

Visually ugly, poor performance, functionally buggy with no sign of support for an independent developer.

I know all of that is not Angular's fault but some of it sure is.

Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

#47
post #12

I use Firefox for most things at home, including a lot of browsing YouTube. I don't have the issues you're describing. Though I am on YT Premium and use uBlock.

> Though I am on YT Premium and use uBlock. YT Premium is supposed to be ad-less? What the advantages of uBlock here?

They might not show you the ads but I guarantee the code is still in the background keeping track of your habits so they can show you more targeted ads elsewhere.

Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

#48
post #24

I don't have much problems (Firefox on Mac) but seeing how many others complain I guess it is just a matter of time before I get moved to another A/B testing "experiment" testing how much I can endure before I give up and switch to Chrome (it won't happen). Seeing how many of the users report the problem goes away if they let Firefox report as Chrome I personally am rather sure this is intentionally from Googles side…

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. I feel its far more likely Google devs are just lazy and don't bother to test in Firefox, much like devs at pretty much every company these days. Unfortunate, but (probably) not part of some deliberate evil plan.

Never apply Hanlon's razor to that which can be adequately be explained by disregard for the consequences.

Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?

#49
post #43
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Linux (Kubuntu with KDE and Wayland), I cannot use Youtube at all as it freezes for a long time when I start playing a video. It plays the sound but the browser stays frozen for around half a minute or so. It does eventually start showing the video as well... Do you know if there's any known issue for this?

Use yt-dlp and a frontend like tartube?

I can use Chromium. Just wanted to report the problem.
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