The Google Adsense dashboard does not work at all on Firefox, only Chrome. It must be deliberate.
Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
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Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#32I don't have much problems (Firefox on Mac) but seeing how many others complain I guess it is just a matter of time before I get moved to another A/B testing "experiment" testing how much I can endure before I give up and switch to Chrome (it won't happen). Seeing how many of the users report the problem goes away if they let Firefox report as Chrome I personally am rather sure this is intentionally from Googles side…
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. I feel its far more likely Google devs are just lazy and don't bother to test in Firefox, much like devs at pretty much every company these days. Unfortunate, but (probably) not part of some deliberate evil plan.
On the other hand: https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has...
Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#33I have not noticed issues with YouTube, but it's been clear to me how gimped Firefox is compared with Chrome on Google Meet. Some missing minor features, sluggish performance and lower streaming quality to name a few.
Sharing screen on Google Meet + Firefox either doesn’t work or crashes the browser for me.
Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#34I have found, rather amusingly, that Firefox for Android runs YouTube better than the official Android app . The official app randomly closes itself for no reason during long videos, while the web version in Firefox stays up forever (even in the background!)
Usually when you have a choice of using a web site or using an app you are better off using the web site. There is the problem of React pages showing you stale or invalid content in the process of re-re-re-rendering but on iOS I find some apps basically render right, others (like Skype these days) are like a bad React app squared.
Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#35There's a known buffering issue with YouTube on Firefox. Apparently it's been fixed and will ship in the next point release: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1878510#c114 https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1djkdql/for_people... According to the reddit comments it's a broken implementation by Google that doesn't trip up Chrome.
On Linux (Kubuntu with KDE and Wayland), I cannot use Youtube at all as it freezes for a long time when I start playing a video. It plays the sound but the browser stays frozen for around half a minute or so. It does eventually start showing the video as well... Do you know if there's any known issue for this?
Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#36I don't have much problems (Firefox on Mac) but seeing how many others complain I guess it is just a matter of time before I get moved to another A/B testing "experiment" testing how much I can endure before I give up and switch to Chrome (it won't happen). Seeing how many of the users report the problem goes away if they let Firefox report as Chrome I personally am rather sure this is intentionally from Googles side…
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. I feel its far more likely Google devs are just lazy and don't bother to test in Firefox, much like devs at pretty much every company these days. Unfortunate, but (probably) not part of some deliberate evil plan.
this is right for individuals, not corporations like those where every single decision is reviewed in meetings. you should actually apply the opposite for them : guilty unless proven innocent
Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#37I am a fanatic Firefox user who develops in it most of the time so in the last few places I’ve worked (except for one) I was keeping our products compatible with it.
We have one screen in our admin Ui which loads way too much data and it is notably slow on FF, but otherwise it is great.
I have definitely noted sites hat are incompatible with Firefox are turning up but YouTube is by far the worst and most common. So I browse YouTube with Edge.
Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#38There's a known buffering issue with YouTube on Firefox. Apparently it's been fixed and will ship in the next point release: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1878510#c114 https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1djkdql/for_people... According to the reddit comments it's a broken implementation by Google that doesn't trip up Chrome.
Doesn't that confirm that google is breaking firefox? We can't prove deliberately without evidence, but it seems to fit
Firefox is fixing youtube's bug because google won't fix a bug
Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#39There's a known buffering issue with YouTube on Firefox. Apparently it's been fixed and will ship in the next point release: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1878510#c114 https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1djkdql/for_people... According to the reddit comments it's a broken implementation by Google that doesn't trip up Chrome.
Doesn't that confirm that google is breaking firefox? We can't prove deliberately without evidence, but it seems to fit Firefox is fixing youtube's bug because google won't fix a bug
Google pays money to Mozilla for being a default search engine. I think "Google breaking firefox" is kind of conspiracy.
Re: Ask HN: Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
#40> Is Google deliberately breaking Firefox?
Yes, and they have been doing so for years.
> a former Mozilla exec who bemoaned intentional sabotage from the Google camp over several years. Johnathan Nightingale, who worked as a GM & VP on Firefox, saw relations between Google and Firefox sour as the former grew more ambitious for browser market share. Not only did YouTube suffer, he saw "oopses" hitting functionality and performance in other popular Google properties like Gmail and Google Docs.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/youtube-responds-to-delaye...