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Ask HN: Is Firefox better than Chrome when it comes to user security?

#1
Is it actually meaningfully safer for a user to use Firefox over Chrome?

It feels like Chrome being made by Google can employ more folks, respond to 0-days, with integrations for Google accounts, it provides a decent password management experience, passkeys, etc.

I understand folks have concerns with Google as a company, but ignoring that would the average user be safer using Chrome?

Re: Ask HN: Is Firefox better than Chrome when it comes to user security?

#3
I would probably say it's impossible to tell so both are equal in that security regard.

I would say other things like tracking for example poses a higher security risk and for that reason makes Firefox the safer choice. But you have other browsers that builds on their engines like Librewolf and similar that are even safer.

Re: Ask HN: Is Firefox better than Chrome when it comes to user security?

#5
post #2

Firefox is much more private, but Chrome is more secure, although I don’t know to what extent and whether there is a difference in practice. The main consideration is chance of zero days. Anyone knows?

Another non-technical consideration is market-share. Firefox's share is low so exploiting a zero day on Chrome is much more profitable than on Firefox.

Re: Ask HN: Is Firefox better than Chrome when it comes to user security?

#6
Let's not talk about privacy (because there is no point in talking about it: Firefox is eons more private than Chrome - or any of it's based browsers - can ever be)

About security: Chrome has a biggest workforce, yes. but let's think about this a bit...

First, let's not forget that chrome is also a bigger target.

let's imagine this: Consider that 90% of the users worldwide use chromium-based browsers, and you are an hacker who wants to steal peoples data or access their computers.

Would you bother targeting 10% of the users. Or would you just go after those 90%???

now add another detail into that thinking:

people who use Firefox are mostly techies, people who know about computers, gnu/linux users, developers, more security-conscientious users, people who actually know and care about the tech that goes bellow, people that knows what's happening in the IT world, and people that simple don't go with the flock without studding it's path first... now... would you really bother targeting those when you have 90% of people - where probably 85% don't know anything about computers or just don't give a #$%& about it???

Would you go easy bait, or would you try to outsmart those who might be at the same level you are???

(sure, there is always exceptions!!!)

but then again... maybe that's just me...

Re: Ask HN: Is Firefox better than Chrome when it comes to user security?

#7
In term of time to patch 0-day, Firefox is very quick to fix them (usually hours committed, days to publish). Chrome is quick too, so it's not a competitive advantage.

Most of cyber-criminals however, will target Chrome because it's way more used.

In term of control the password manager of firefox don't need you to have an account. That is very important because, you want to use a password manager on the web and to be able to actually trust it. Google can close you account without previous notice.

Re: Ask HN: Is Firefox better than Chrome when it comes to user security?

#8
For average user both are secure enough and privacy is more important concern.

I don't think 0-day will be wasted on targeting random nobody.

To be more secure, only way is to reduce surface area. Someone like journalist should disable JS/cookies, all plugins and extensions and preferably browse through a locked down VM. Don't know if there is any minimal browser that has actively removed features.

Re: Ask HN: Is Firefox better than Chrome when it comes to user security?

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post #4

If you're willing to include Chrome forks then I'd say Brave is, despite the issues surrounding their love for crypto, more secure than Chrome, and it has much better anti-fingerprinting if you care about that.

Why would you say it's more secure?
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