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I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

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> '“It felt like the right thing to do here,” Caceres told WIRED at the time. “If they don’t see we have teeth, it’s just going to keep coming.”' Ask yourself. Do 'hackers' talk like this or military/government employees? Also ask yourself, is WIRED a 'hacker' friendly magazine or a government affiliated state media? Some top WIRED offerings 'Former FBI Agent Explains How to Read Body Language...' 'Former CIA Chief o…

The actual content of his AMA makes the whole US government apparatus look inept. Ask yourself, is this something that a US government agent would do?

only if they are interested in communicating to people who don't like the us government

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"the West" has to keep some degree of not officially caring to avoid being backed into a policy corner and has no incentive to take law enforcement action when threat actors in those other countries operate with impunity. We're already well into causus belli territory with NK, but nobody wants to go there: https://x.com/tarah/status/1798036415932187127

That link doesn't really explain what exactly it's talking about, it's a single reply with the original post invisible and all replies invisible. It speaks of a cyberattack without mentioning which one.

It works for me? That's normal behavior if you aren't signed into Twitter :(

Summary of thread: Society doesn't handle 2nd order consequences well. NK cryptolocker attack on healthcare-involved systems in British hospitals disrupted treatment to the extent that hundreds of people died who probably wouldn't have.

Expanding on that: Organized crime groups located in and sometimes tasked by RU SVR & GRU (not to mention NK state groups) have caused sufficient disruption to US healthcare systems to have indirectly caused more US Citizen deaths than the Sept 11 attacks. Right now cyber that does not directly cause destruction such as making buildings blow up or poisoning water supply is treated as just an annoying white collar crime.

I don't think anyone wants the US Government to be in a position where their options are to admit powerlessness or get proportional against nuclear armed states.

Somewhat related: https://blogs.icrc.org/law-and-policy/2023/10/04/8-rules-civ...

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

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NSA and similar agencies are probably even mad at him, because he exposed the weakness that they could have exploited when needed, which is probably now patched.

> NSA and similar agencies are probably even mad at him, because he exposed the weakness that they could have exploited when needed, which is probably now patched. Then they should have caught this when he came forward to multiple agencies, and was told that no one cared. Please see my related comment as to why I submitted his AMA to HN. It's to bring to light this egregious lapse in US gov procedures: https://news.y…

They don't care for a couple of reasons.

The first is that it was already obvious to anyone who has worked with large-scale networks even before firing up traceroute. It was already widely known that North Korea has bad peering, because nobody but China wants to peer with them. The US is where most of the major cloud companies are headquartered (i.e. resources can be commandeered), and the defense budget would support an _enormous_ DDoS attack without even flinching.

Secondly, denial of service attacks are worth much less to governments. They have the capability to physically break infrastructure either obviously with bombs or clandestinely via who knows what. They don't _need_ a DDoS to deny service, and it's certainly not their most effective way to cut off communications.

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

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No, he knocked out the two routers serving the entire country . NK sites were inaccessible to the outside world, and outside sites were inaccessible to NK.

But very very few North Koreans even have access to the internet. Regular people just have access to a local intranet with censored information. That exercise that Russia did a few years ago to see if they could function cut off from the internet? For north Korea that's the regular self-imposed status quo. I don't think it will have had much impact on daily life there.

But it would have had a big impact on the lives of the elites in the country, which are the people you want to hurt to put pressure on the regime.

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Russia wanted to join nato, but nato wouldn't let them. Why would N korea even try then?

> Russia wanted to join nato, but nato wouldn't let them. That's not true. You will not find a single law approved by Russian Duma that sets it as a foreign policy goal like in countries that did choose to join NATO.

Putin, at least, says he wanted to join NATO back in 2000 (according to the Stone interview). But he put it, "the U.S. delegation got very nervous."

Granted this was well before his total Machtergreifung, and he definitely was not equated with "Russia" at the time like he is now. But that's his telling of events, in any case.

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They assassinated a potential rival for the throne . The situations are not even remotely similar. Killing a US citizen on US soil would not go down well.

India killed a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil... What exactly would the US do to North Korea that we haven't done already?

The film The Interview was released in 2014. Ten years later, Seth Rogen and James Franco are still alive.

> North Korean state media threatened "merciless" retaliation for his depiction in the film. Seth Rogen responded, "People don't usually wanna kill me for one of my movies until after they've paid 12 bucks for it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Interview

Where is the merciless retaliation? Keep in mind this film has a graphic scene where Kim Jong Un dies…

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

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i hope no poor IT engineer in NK and his family for 10 generations isnt going to be sent to workcamps because of this joke.

The only person to blame for that behavior is the chaotic and capricious dictator taking these actions against the population he is oppressing.

just like car manufacturers are the only people responsible for accidents on the road?
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