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Re: Show HN: Radius – A Meetup.com alternative

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Meetup has steadily gone to shit, and it's not hard to see why: you can't make money with a user-friendly platform for hosting community groups. Do you have a plan to avoid their fate?

You certainly can make money from a user-friendly group platform.

It's just not enough money to sustain a VC-backed model or a large sales/support staff.

If OP is careful about managing expenses and doesn't set outlandish expectations for profit (or raise VC), a profitable niche is doable.

Re: Show HN: Radius – A Meetup.com alternative

#52
post #46

I've worked in this product area before, and the big threats that we always had to watch out for were 1. Spam - once the app is large enough, you will be inundated with 'groups' that are just marketing pitches for companies and products. If you don't have a system for approving groups or figuring out how to promote high-quality over low-quality groups, you're going to struggle. Also, the whole idea of 'high-quality'…

I am skeptical about 4. There is a reason Meetup ate Facebook for many things despite it requiring a new account, Facebook groups are terrible and Meetup shows that you can compete.

That is a good sign, for sure. Maybe revise to 'Facebook will eat 20% of your lunch - your business model will need to account for that'. Products like this don't have a big moat other than their network.

Re: Show HN: Radius – A Meetup.com alternative

#53
These things have to have good iCal integration. Meetup's worked for a while but one of its issues was that each calendar was per-group and only showed future events. Refresh your calendar 5 mins after the event started to make sure you're in the right place? Too bad, it's gone. It'd be nice to have a user-level calendar that shows all the groups I'm a member of. But Meetup requires auth for that now and DAVx5 doesn't work with it anymore.

Re: Show HN: Radius – A Meetup.com alternative

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I actively run both a professional and personal on Meetup for the past 1.5 years. I love seeing new options show up in the space, because I do believe the tools are ripe for disruption right now and the sites where people post their events are very fragmented. Kudos to you for taking a stab at it. There's two things I'd love to know how you're thinking about: 1. Right now, the benefit of Meetup is natural discoverabi…

> 1. Right now, the benefit of Meetup is natural discoverability. I can set and forget an event with no advertising and people will find it and show up. That's not true of any of the other event websites. This may be specific to the Austin community though.

Yep, it has that going for it, for sure. I'm currently focused on the organiser side of things before working on discoverability - but planning on focusing on smaller geographic areas initially and expanding out from there.

I like what Luma have done with pages for cities - not sure how they include events in their listings which are outside the zones they've decided to make pages for (just major cities for now).

> I've been increasingly interested in Luma because they have the idea of a "Calendar" you can subscribe to which doesn't require the origin of the event to be on Luma itself. This allows it act as an event aggregator while still encouraging events to originate on Luma with notifications and reminders built in. See an example here: https://lu.ma/austin-tech-scene

So, initially, I had planned to have an aggregator for the discovery side but then decided to stay away from that for legal reasons. I know Meetup have something in their terms against using their API for any service that can be deemed a competitor so I assume Luma is scraping that data.

From what I've read, scraping like this seems like a legal grey area but maybe I'm being over cautious? Being able to aggregate would solve one of my largest problems.

> How do you plan to make money? Without a visible monetization model, my main concern switching to your platform would be the longevity of the platform and the risk of building up an audience there.

Premium organiser/group features for larger groups or groups that want them. Longevity is an understandable concern - I probably have a few features added already that could be deemed "premium" but have a few more to add before I can consider opening that up as an option.

Re: Show HN: Radius – A Meetup.com alternative

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am skeptical about 4. There is a reason Meetup ate Facebook for many things despite it requiring a new account, Facebook groups are terrible and Meetup shows that you can compete.

That is a good sign, for sure. Maybe revise to 'Facebook will eat 20% of your lunch - your business model will need to account for that'. Products like this don't have a big moat other than their network.

Products that truly intend to sow community will be okay with losing 20% of the crowd which are indeed a group who will put forth lower effort, higher noise than signal contributions, and severely change your offering's requirements.

Think HN or lobste.rs vs....well, Facebook!

Re: Show HN: Radius – A Meetup.com alternative

#57
post #48

I've worked in this product area before, and the big threats that we always had to watch out for were 1. Spam - once the app is large enough, you will be inundated with 'groups' that are just marketing pitches for companies and products. If you don't have a system for approving groups or figuring out how to promote high-quality over low-quality groups, you're going to struggle. Also, the whole idea of 'high-quality'…

I run a meet-up group, I hate meetup.com but I pay for it because Facebook groups isn't as good, and meetup.com doesn't even work properly. It's such a terribly low bar.

What are your top Meetup.com pain-points?

Re: Show HN: Radius – A Meetup.com alternative

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post #57
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run a meet-up group, I hate meetup.com but I pay for it because Facebook groups isn't as good, and meetup.com doesn't even work properly. It's such a terribly low bar.

What are your top Meetup.com pain-points?

I always set up the same event, at the same place, etc, yet it's hard to just say "use all the values from the previous one". It doesn't have many ways to communicate with members, so I've set up a Discord server instead, which is fine. The UI is a bit confusing if you need to do anything other than set up an event. Most crucially of all, members complain that emails don't reach them, which is terrible, because then they don't know to come to the event.

A push notification system would be nice, but...

Re: Show HN: Radius – A Meetup.com alternative

#60

I run a meet up group of about 1000 members for a makerspace in the Chicago suburbs. I’m glad to see alternatives coming about, but I’m also somewhat skeptical this can actually solve our dissatisfaction with Meetup. As an event organizer, I don’t really need that many fancy features. I need a product that is moderately priced and will actually get people to walk in the door when I schedule an event. Focus on buildin…

Thanks for the feedback and the kind offer, Rick - I'll definitely take you up on that and reach out!
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