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Even Apple cannot explain why we need AI in our lives

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Re: Even Apple cannot explain why we need AI in our lives

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post #19

It certainly feels like the AI bubble is popping. Code completion is a great use, some writing tools are nice, I love chatGPT for information lookup (while knowing that it hallucinates), ChatGPT/whatever is great for generating icons and some images, and it’s much better at writing in corpo than I am. But…Nvidia as the most valuable company in the world? $1B valuations for freshly minted companies? Radical changes to…

If it is a pop how can Big Tech walk it back? Am I overreacting here or have companies like Google and Microsoft pimped out their reputations in an irreversible fashion?

Everyone will walk it back like they walked back 'blockchain.' And then they'll go and find another technology to conspicuously chase. The hype cycle will repeat.

Re: Even Apple cannot explain why we need AI in our lives

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Because we don't need AI in our lives as everyday consumers. For business uses, it makes some sense (code completion, proof reading, rewriting, etc). This isn't a product for consumers, this is a product for shareholders.

Apple's stock would have dipped dramatically if they held WWDC this year with zero mention of any AI products. They're duty isn't to us as consumers, it's to shareholders to protect and grow their investment. They just have to play the same game as the rest of the industry. They don't have to explain why consumers need it, that's not the point. The point is that they can't look like they're falling behind.

Re: Even Apple cannot explain why we need AI in our lives

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It certainly feels like the AI bubble is popping. Code completion is a great use, some writing tools are nice, I love chatGPT for information lookup (while knowing that it hallucinates), ChatGPT/whatever is great for generating icons and some images, and it’s much better at writing in corpo than I am. But…Nvidia as the most valuable company in the world? $1B valuations for freshly minted companies? Radical changes to…

> I love chatGPT for information lookup (while knowing that it hallucinates)

Hallucinates?

I'd use the term 'bullshits' when it doesn't know the right answer.

This makes it a dangerous thing to trust.

Re: Even Apple cannot explain why we need AI in our lives

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post #9

Right now, the main consumer uses of LLMs and generative AI seem to be for cheating at homework and their jobs, when quality is not a high priority.

It's hard to know if this take is meant to be taken seriously... it's so detached from at least how people on HN use LLMs.

"Cheating at homework." Is a calculator cheating? Was using encyclopedias cheating? What about wikipedia? What about Wolfram Alpha? This mentality that one must do all work originally or it's cheating is not how learning works / should work. We should teach kids how to leverage all the tools they can to find the right answer and use critical thinking to be confident the answer is right. If we discourage learning to use these tools we'll actually make kids more likely to just trust the tools at their word when they do go sneakily use them.

"... and their jobs." I'm a software engineer and AI has made the process of debugging issues and implementing common patterns so much faster and less error prone. It's because I'm a highly skilled engineer who knows what to look for (same as when we browse stack overflow) and how to identify good and bad patterns.

It's not laziness, and the work must be high quality, and now I have a tool which helps me get more done in less time without sacrificing quality.

Re: Even Apple cannot explain why we need AI in our lives

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post #11

Lots of anti AI narrative in the news lately. Not to be cynical but I'd hate to suspect it partially has to do with it threatening their business model.

Unlimited pseudo-articles with no connection to reality are certainly a threat to news, but not one we should be celebrating.

Re: Even Apple cannot explain why we need AI in our lives

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I know Apple is relevant because they have a lot of money. But when was the last time their products were relevant? 2008 w/ the iPhone? 2010 with the iPad? 2002 w/ the iPod? MacBooks in 1998? Most of my family uses iPhones and it's painful to watch them struggle with basic tasks. My mom tries to find out how to access gmail instead of me.com. My brother downloads yet another app to add metadata to pictures. No one at…

Apple is iPhone company but they accumulated so much cash and talent that they can take a swing at anything they want.

Re: Even Apple cannot explain why we need AI in our lives

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post #31

Why don't we have more robots now? We ve supposedly been waiting for decades for computer vision and navigation to be solved, and now it is. I can think of quite a few things that i want robots to do right now. I don't want more touchscreens

1. It’s not solved 2. Actuation and sensing
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