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Re: Take my money, HBO

#181

Post by cezar_sl »

technoslut wrote: post #154
cletus wrote: post #145

I certainly understand the motivation for this but HBO is actually in a difficult position. - HBO drives a lot of cable purchase - Some of that money goes to the cable companies for data carriage - The cable companies know HBO sells cable - Any alternative distribution means risks the cable companies losing income - Cable companies losing income means that HBO risks either being dropped from the cable companies or ha…

I doubt that cable companies will drop HBO. They are the primary channel that cable companies have in pushing higher priced channel packages and would have to deal with consumer revolt.

Well, one company alone can't do it, since it will lose customers to others that don't. They may try to all boycott HBO, but I don't see that happening.

Re: Take my money, HBO

#182

Post by waterlesscloud »

technoslut wrote: post #154
cletus wrote: post #145

I certainly understand the motivation for this but HBO is actually in a difficult position. - HBO drives a lot of cable purchase - Some of that money goes to the cable companies for data carriage - The cable companies know HBO sells cable - Any alternative distribution means risks the cable companies losing income - Cable companies losing income means that HBO risks either being dropped from the cable companies or ha…

I doubt that cable companies will drop HBO. They are the primary channel that cable companies have in pushing higher priced channel packages and would have to deal with consumer revolt.

This is the annoying thing about the argument, that there's any chance whatsoever that the cable companies would drop HBO. There's zero chance that would happen. Zero.

Here's a question- Cable channel AMC makes Mad Men available for purchase on Amazon Instant Video the day after it airs. As far as I know, no cable systems have dropped AMC as a result. Why not?

Re: Take my money, HBO

#183

Post by jquery »

biot wrote: post #144
jquery wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this question is asked in good faith, but I'll try to respond anyway. The answer is we don't live in a perfect world, and we all have to make pragmatic choices. If there was an alternative to petroleum that involved painlessly breaking a wrongheaded law, I would do it in a heartbeat. Choosing to pirate Game of Thrones is a win/win. I get the content I want and I don't enrich cable executives who not onl…

How does your action result in a win for the thousands of people (actors, extras, film crew, set construction crew, costume designers, editors, sound engineers, musicians, etc.) who worked on Game of Thrones? If everyone followed your lead and nobody paid a cent to HBO they would all be out of a job. It's only because others are willing to reward the creators for their work that your freeloading is possible.

If everyone followed my lead, HBO-Go would be available standalone. Today. Not ten years from now after they've had their fill of dumb money. They're greedy, not stupid.

Re: Take my money, HBO

#185

Post by jack-r-abbit »

ars wrote: post #164
jack-r-abbit wrote: post #157

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> You aren't taking it. You are copying it. If we want to get into semantics we should really pick some words that are more neutral. So.. you consumed it and did not compensate them for it. Better? It is kind of funny when you think about the term leech used in the torrent world. If you download something and don't make it available for upload, you are leeching. You are taking but not giving back. So to consume someo…

> So.. you consumed it and did not compensate them for it. Better? Not really. Why do I need to compensate them? You give a creator money to encourage them to do more, not to compensate them. Compensate implies they loose in some way and you have to make them whole. That doesn't apply here. In this case the author of the post want to encourage them to do more, but they refuse because they believe they can do better w…

> Why do I need to compensate them? [snip] Compensate implies they loose in some way

Compensate only implies that if that is the only way you choose to see it. If you have a job, the money you earn is compensation.... paying (someone) for work performed. Compensate means so much more. Also, consume means more than to destroy. But since those other definitions do not serve your purpose, it is convenient to turn a blind eye to them.

> A leech is only a leech if he doesn't try to give back, but in this case the author of the post tries, but his offer was not accepted.

But the author does not have the authority to dictate what offers must be accepted. If a creator is offering you a product and gives you Option A or Option B. It is not reasonable to assert that if you counter-offer him with Option C and he refuses that it gives you a right to still accept the product and neither of his chosen options.

Also, I didn't bring up anything about copyright. So I'm not sure how you know I have it all reversed.

Re: Take my money, HBO

#186

Post by riya123 »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #184
pretz wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Key phrase in OP: "at the same time as the show airs"

Strangely, I find I'm capable of waiting a few months.

To: Microsoft Windows 8/RT Development Team

Please have a read of the thread I have started on Microsoft Answers:

answers.microsoft.com/.../652435d4-b71f-40bb-af1b-8267b911fd97http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-n...;

Can you please explain to me why Windows 8  RT will be lacking key features in comparison to Windows 8 and Windows 8 Professional?

Refer to this link:

www.pcauthority.com.au/.../297262,three-editions-of-windows-8-announced.aspxhttp://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/297262,three-editions-of-...;

I have looked at press releases of the new features and I  am not impressed as there is no corporate/advanced edition of the future Windows RT bieng planned by the look of it.

For example from what I can see:

-  There is no Windows Media Player in sight.

-  There are no abilities to connect to corporate network domains

-  The Remote Desktop Feature (hosting) is not available.

-  From the feature list it looks like these devices advanced settings are locked down (security policies, advanced file sharing etc) homegroups

  and simple file sharing in the corporate environment is a security risk.

-  Will there be a integrated firewall on this future RT edition?

Why aren't these important features bieng included on the ARM edition? Why isn't there going to be a Windows RT Pro Edition to connect to a corporate network?

Please explain

Regards,

J876_1

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Re: Take my money, HBO

#188

Post by Karunamon »

res0nat0r wrote: post #168
Karunamon wrote: post #121

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>However, just because they may (or may not) be making a poor business decision, it doesn't excuse what people are doing: illegally pirating content. Look at it from the other direction. Pirates are gonna pirate and there is fuck all anyone can do about it. Moralize about it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that people will get the content for free, and MORE people will get the content for free if they feel r…

They can't make a relatively simple change and capture that market (read the dcurtis article linked above).

I just read that. Interesting. One quote stood out at me though:

>Our content, exclusive. It's the only place you can get it. And we believe there is value in exclusivity.

You say value, others say needless and overpriced hurdles. And there's nothing exclusive about the average torrent site :)

Re: Take my money, HBO

#189

Post by jquery »

biot wrote: post #178
p0ckets wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't. But the alternative, not watching the show, doesn't either. He also never claims that his actions would benefit anybody. (You probably have the moral high ground here, I just don't agree with this argument.)

The issue is with calling it win/win: > Choosing to pirate Game of Thrones is a win/win. I get > the content I want and I don't enrich cable executives Both wins are wins for the pirate with no consideration to others. This is a parasite's definition of win/win.

This parasite would be happy to give HBO money. HBO doesn't want it. Not my problem.

Re: Take my money, HBO

#190

Post by riya123 »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #182
technoslut wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt that cable companies will drop HBO. They are the primary channel that cable companies have in pushing higher priced channel packages and would have to deal with consumer revolt.

This is the annoying thing about the argument, that there's any chance whatsoever that the cable companies would drop HBO. There's zero chance that would happen. Zero. Here's a question- Cable channel AMC makes Mad Men available for purchase on Amazon Instant Video the day after it airs. As far as I know, no cable systems have dropped AMC as a result. Why not?

just a chance is there to drop

right

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