Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

old.reddit.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 173 posts

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

#21

Post by burrish »

cryptica wrote: post #7

The hacker doesn't understand what they're getting themselves into, especially bragging about it. The hard part about going up against an entire nation/state is that it's relentless. The state never gets tired and never runs out of money, they could setup a team of people to 'work' on that individual and also potentially his present and future family members for a very long time. They can keep replenishing their team…

Yep and I mean... don't we all remember the assassination of Kim Jong-nam outside of North Korea in a Malaysia airport ?

who know if NK will do it again, but showing his identity so that NK know who they should target is really stupid

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

#22

Post by Kindling7257 »

cryptica wrote: post #7

The hacker doesn't understand what they're getting themselves into, especially bragging about it. The hard part about going up against an entire nation/state is that it's relentless. The state never gets tired and never runs out of money, they could setup a team of people to 'work' on that individual and also potentially his present and future family members for a very long time. They can keep replenishing their team…

Redditors will do literally anything for social validation

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

#23

Post by sitkack »

Keirmot wrote: post #8
paganel wrote: post #2

Why isn’t he in prison? I mean, going by the West’s own laws, or the spirit of them, anyway. Unless he is part of said West’s Armed Forces, in which case this would get really close to a casus belli .

Because one of the 3 basic principles of sovereignty (as is understood by western political philosophy, known as Westphalian sovereignty) is that there is no other authority inside a State’s borders except its own. This means no other country has jurisdiction in North Korea, besides, there’s also no incentive to help in case DPRK asks for help. France doesn’t investigante crimes that happen in Spain, Portugal doesn’t…

The FBI has offices around the world.

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

#24

Post by saagarjha »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9
paganel wrote: post #2

Why isn’t he in prison? I mean, going by the West’s own laws, or the spirit of them, anyway. Unless he is part of said West’s Armed Forces, in which case this would get really close to a casus belli .

> Why isn’t he in prison? Not an enforcement priority for the same reason a lot of domestic abuse goes unprotected: the victim is uncoöperative. > going by the West’s own laws, or the spirit of them, anyway Pyongyang and prosecutors would have to show he attacked a “protected computer” under the CFAA [1]. Given the two routers he allegedly overwhelmed were internet connected, that shouldn’t technically be hard under…

Privateering is back, baby!

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

#27

Post by teekert »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9
paganel wrote: post #2

Why isn’t he in prison? I mean, going by the West’s own laws, or the spirit of them, anyway. Unless he is part of said West’s Armed Forces, in which case this would get really close to a casus belli .

> Why isn’t he in prison? Not an enforcement priority for the same reason a lot of domestic abuse goes unprotected: the victim is uncoöperative. > going by the West’s own laws, or the spirit of them, anyway Pyongyang and prosecutors would have to show he attacked a “protected computer” under the CFAA [1]. Given the two routers he allegedly overwhelmed were internet connected, that shouldn’t technically be hard under…

I can imagine he did piss of some agencies? I mean other states could have mapped NK's whole infra, made a plan to take down NK's internet when "needed" (i.e. in case of some event)... Then some dude triggers it just for fun...

Some things are too big to just mess around with, I would feel extremely vulnerable having pulled such a stunt.

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

#28

Post by throwaway8877 »

londons_explore wrote: post #25

Such an attack is, IMO, morally dubious. North Korea is a poor country with millions of starving citizens, and rather than sending food aid, you broke down their only comms to the rest of the world?

They are heavily sanctioned criminal country that is openly aiding a genocidal regime. If anything is then your comment is morally dubious.

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

#29

Post by gorbachev »

londons_explore wrote: post #25

Such an attack is, IMO, morally dubious. North Korea is a poor country with millions of starving citizens, and rather than sending food aid, you broke down their only comms to the rest of the world?

Yes and no.

Only the elite in that country has access to the Internet. The starving citizens do not have access to the Internet, and even if they do/did, they're so heavily monitored the minute they even glanced at something controversial they'd be shipped to a concentration camp.

Re: I'm the hacker that brought down North Korea's Internet for over a week. AMA

#30

Post by throwaway8877 »

golergka wrote: post #18

He contradicts himself left and right. In one comment, he writes that they will never come after him, in another that he's seriously concerned. He writes that he has a lot of serious connections in the DoD up to the highest level, and then explains that he has a way to stop any attack from NK, but nobody will even listen to him.

The last two points are not contradictory.
Post reply on HN