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Re: Lindroid

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"needs root and patches to AOSP". So there go the banking apps mentioned elsewhere and you can just use postmarketOS. Still cool though!

As it’s Linux could we run android in a vm and simulate a safe device? That’s my hope for the future of mobile devices, safe VMs that we can run on top of the spyware (government enforced stuff too) infested phones.

Unfortunately, most of those misguided "device integrity" checkers detect VMs and the best of them (luckily still not used very often) are essentially unbeatable (unless there's a critical bug) due to hardware-backed attestation.

Re: Lindroid

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I'm currently in the process of trying to see if Samsung DeX is able to replace my laptop. It is running directly on Termux, as opposed to using something like proot. So far it seems promising, and the biggest thing issue I have is that the Termux-X11 session essentially acts like a VM in that shortcuts are not seemless. I'd love to know how this compares to that. Or maybe there's a way to make that more seemless. E.…

Emacs-termux is awkward to get working initially, but it gives you more-or-less full emacs as an Android app, but sharing storage/namespace with termux so that they both have access to the same binaries and documents. There isn't a good project page, it's based at this sourceforgw page and has a surprisingly comprehensive readme. https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs...

SourceForge [0]... the Sony [1] of software development.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Adware_controversy

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...

Re: Lindroid

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Neat project, but hate the branding. Android is Linux. I think it's really important to recognize that. Linux is not just not the one traditional POSIX style system, it's a platform to build all sorts of systems, including Android.

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modifi…

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Re: Lindroid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some, not all. Last time I checked magisk wasn't able to fake safetynet hardwareattestation

Yup. I gave up on trying to get Google wallet / Android pay to work on my lineage device. I got it working sometimes but it broke after update and just wasn't reliable enough to keep trying when paying for stuff. I'm not really sure whom they're protecting with this stuff -- the credit card processing companies, maybe?

wallet doesn't work reliably on a non-rooted pixel phone with approximately zero software installed on it either, you may not be doing anything wrong

Re: Lindroid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modifi…

Ironically, in this specific instance (Android), it actually _isn't_ GNU/Linux. Distros like Alpine also aren't GNU/Linux.

True, but it was still worth the meme (:

Re: Lindroid

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> full hw accelerated Linux on your Android as an app At this point, you can just run full GNU/Linux on a phone. Sent from my Librem 5.

Sure, but most people might need their phone to do banking apps or apps like WhatsApp, Spotify or Maps which are not available on your phone. This allows people to run GNU apps on their android phone so they can have both

You can do it with Waydroid (if your bank doesn't force you into the duopoly, at which point you should complain or switch).

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40714592

Re: Lindroid

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> full hw accelerated Linux on your Android as an app At this point, you can just run full GNU/Linux on a phone. Sent from my Librem 5.

"Is it any good?" is its own question. I went down this rabbit hole trying to see how to make the non-gaming side of a Steam handheld feel like a tablet, and was surprised/disappointed at how spartan the touch-based Linux ecosystem is. There are half a dozen projects trying to make it happen, but they're all really small and mostly independent. There's one guy working on GNOME for mobile, one working on the Maui syst…

> Phosh was poorly packaged as well, so I didn't invest much effort there.

Phosh comes with some OSes by default: https://phosh.mobi/faq/

> "Is it any good?" is its own question.

Depends on your needs. Daily driver for me.

Re: Lindroid

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> full hw accelerated Linux on your Android as an app At this point, you can just run full GNU/Linux on a phone. Sent from my Librem 5.

Yeah great, although I am keen to see if this eventually will run on something like an Amazon Fire Stick or one of those old Androids in my drawer.

It won't, due the closed specs and proprietary drivers.

Re: Lindroid

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Neat project, but hate the branding. Android is Linux. I think it's really important to recognize that. Linux is not just not the one traditional POSIX style system, it's a platform to build all sorts of systems, including Android.

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modifi…

PS. https://www.gnu.org/gnu/incorrect-quotation.en.html
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